Tuesday, May 31, 2005

A Trembling Sense of Anticipation (Q'feidah)

Because of my work load I will not be able to write a major essay until after June 19th. Yet, this interview with Rav Ezra Scheinberg referenced at www.yiddishkeit.org and located at http://www.moriya.org.il/shut/indexid.asp?id=21505 deserves comment. It is earth-shaking if Rav Eliyahu is indicating that the disengagement definitely will not happen. I am, using Rav Eliyahu's own words, in q'feidah(very cautious trepidation and anticipation) over the events that will happen this summer. These are awesome times. I realize that Rav Scheinberg has couched his reply in words of Chazal that a Tzaddik decrees and that HaShem fulfills, but miracles, whether natural or not I do not know, will be needed to stop this insanity and to direct the attempt to wrench people out of their homes towards Ge'ulah (Redemption).

Here is a loose translation of the short interview:


Prophesy of the Gaon Rav M. Eliyahu?

Question: I heard that Rav M. Eliyahu said: "There will not be a disengagement. This is prophesy, and I am not a fool." Is this a correct quote? (specifically regarding this statement, not regarding other statements where he said that what was to be will not be, etc.)

Answer (by Rav Ezra Scheinberg): Shalom to all. Most correct. The Rav did say thus, and in addition to this he added, "The Holy One blessed be He will not allow me to be disgraced, G-d forbid". More than this one does not need to know. A Tzaddik decrees, and HaShem fulfills. I as his junior can testify about the hundreds of times that the Rav decreed against all logic and the accepted, normal reasoning.... And HaShem accepted the decree of the Tzaddik. How all this will occur, I do not know. However it is clear to me "What was to be will not be...." HaShem may His Name be blessed that loves and worries about his pious ones will not permit the Rav to be disgraced. May we live and may we see great miracles. All is well.



I would heartily suggest that everyone who cares about the coming of Mashiach come here this summer along with anyone that you know to participate in this process. The following sites can best give anyone, who is seeking it, guidance on how they can help stop this life-threatening disengagement process which the President of the U.S. is actively supporting:
http://www.israelreporter.com/ and http://www.savethegush.com/
Please buy your plane tickets now and avoid the post-Shavuot rush.

I must tell you this, though. I do not believe that Gog W.? will be our ally in this process. There is too much at stake for him. The economy of Western Civilization is hanging by a pipeline from Saudi Arabia. He is their prisoner at this time. Unless he invades Saudi Arabia, he will do what the House of Fahd (or whoever the next king is) tells him to do.

(Dear All Who Want to be Part of This Ge'ulah Process:)

I will write you by mid-next week with more details regarding to where you can make a contribution and with whom you can be in contact here to participate in this summer's festivities. Until then the Save The Gush site above has a Paypal link for those who want to make a contribution through Paypal for the residents of Gush Katif and the Northern Shomron. In addition www.womeningreen.org does excellent work. One can donate to them by Paypal or by credit card at their web-site. They will surely take a leadership role in the civil disobedience this summer. Of course, I would be remiss if I did not mention David Ivri's group http://www.revava.org/ which will also take a leading role in participating in the festivities this summer.

Just try and remember that this is a spiritual war against those who claim that Israel is just another nation, that Yerushalayim is no holier than Washington D.C. or Tokyo. They also desire the love of mankind more than the love of G-d. They are very willing to place thousands of lives of fellow Israelis into danger in order to worship their dog-faced god of popularity amongst the nations or in the case of some in this government in order to keep their sons out of the clink and to insure the flow of funds into certain bank accounts here and abroad.

If you cannot be here physically, make a contribution to one of these fine organizations and find a way to show your displeasure to Gog W.? or Tony Blair this summer. But coming here if you can is preferable if you have the time and the resources.

15 Comments:

Blogger Akiva said...

Reb Dov, you say come, and I'm willing to do so. However, unfortunately life intervenes, work, children, school, it cannot be for an unlimited amount of time. I am willing to come and help, particpate, stand strong. But when? I can't come open ended.

Or rather, perhaps I can, but is it the time to sell the house, quit the job, uproot all things in preparation? Close the shul, mess up the children's education?

Targeting the right moment is very difficult. Come short, come long, come when?

Other great tzaddikim have declared us at the moments before the Geulah previously. Yes there are many simonim, but this has been believed before as well.

What makes NOW the final right time?

6/01/2005 6:22 AM  
Blogger MatzahNacho said...

Akiva, I agree, wanting to go is easy, but doing it not so easy.

I would like to go, but hubby won't, at least not right now. He's not as "into this stuff" as I am, and after two years of unemployment he finally got a job, a good one, that he really likes, so there's no way he's going to up and leave it at this point, and he has no vacation time built up yet, so we can't just leave on a trip. I'd have to go alone, and I have very little travel experience. Our trip to Israel a couple years ago was the only time I've ever left California, and it was very difficult stretching our comfort zones, overcoming fear of flying and such. We got it done, we went, and it was an amazing trip, but I don't know that I could go it alone. I might consider it if I had a friend to go along, but at this point I don't know anyone who would be interested. I don't have any family or friends there, which makes just showing up for an open-ended stay rather difficult, let alone I kind of need to be around to keep things in order at home, the bills and such.

Maybe it's a good time for those of us online talking about this to start networking? Maybe we could find people who are looking for travel companions or people in Israel who could give some guidance to those of us who don't have any friends or family there?

6/01/2005 8:20 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Dear Akiva and Matza Nacho:

First of all, you pose a very good financial and logistic question. I, for one, am willing to host someone this summer for the "resistance". You can rest assured that an organized massive resistance to the Sharon/Gog/HaAretz/Peres Axis Dictatorship has been arranged. Just e-mail me, and I will work out the details with my wife. The other two sites that are in this above post may have information about free or cheap room and board for the duration of the crisis. In Kol HaTor the Vilna Gaon says that whoever can help in the war against the Eruv Rav in the End of Days should. If you do not participate and you have the finances and the time to participate, you are siding with them. Which brings up another point: finances and time. On this I can only say that one should try to resist in other ways if they have neither finances nor time: demonstrations in one's home town in coordination with what is happening here and the like. Everyone should make an honest assessment of their own financial situation and decide accordingly whether they can come. I believe that this test of our generation is with all of our resources, b'chol me'odecha. It is the third test because 9/11 kicked off WW3. With all our hearts and with all of our lives is associated with WW1 and WW2 respectively. If you do not have the Me'odim (resources), G-d I am sure will have mercy. Let us all do the best we can in this area.

Finally acording to the Chofetz Chaim who predicted this WW3 generation, this is it. 5 1/4 million Jews are already here despite the Holocaust. Gog Sr. and his son, W., are on the scene. The world price of oil is about to skyrocket as world demand outstrips world supply. Edom is on the verge of falling in accordance with all prophesy that he will sink into his own oil fields.

Isaiah 34: "the L-rd will have a sacrifice in Botzrah and a great slaughter in the Land of Edom....For it is a Day of Vengeance for HaShem, a year of recompense for Tzion's just cause. The rivers will be filled with tar and its soil will become sulfur. Its land will become burning tar. Night and day it will not be extinguished. Its smoke will ascend forever. From generation to generation it will be a place of desolation, for all eternity no one will traverse it."

Akiva, this has never happened before.

Dov Bar-Leib

6/01/2005 9:02 AM  
Anonymous Talia said...

I am also in the United States and cannot come and help because my full time job is to take care of my family which includes young children. I would love to come and help but I think that my family would suffer. There are probably many people in my position. I think Hashem would probably not want us to abandon our families. Dov Bar-Leib, can you please reccommend the best and most resourceful organization where we can make a donation. Do you have an address in the U.S.? I sent a check once to Israel to a very legitimate organization, and the check came back about a year later and they couldn't cash it. Fortunately they finally set up a custodial account.

Thank,
Talia

6/01/2005 3:14 PM  
Blogger MatzahNacho said...

Financial issues? Well, if Mashiach is definitely coming and we will no longer need to pay bills, pay down debts, and try to find a way to keep a roof over our heads in old age, then I'm all for running up a huge credit card debt, but otherwise, for those of us just making ends meet, it isn't an easy decision.

And again, the family thing is a huge factor. Hubby and I have been married for 20 years. I'd like to keep him. But I honestly don't know if that's possible if I were to up and leave for Israel for a few months. And if things really get interesting, would we even be able to return to our families, our bills, our joint accounts and debts? Seriously, do we have any idea if that stuff is going to vanish in the time of Mashiach? Will Israel live in peace but all of life's everyday difficulties will still be with us? Will there still be crime and greed and automated customer "service"?

6/01/2005 6:11 PM  
Blogger Akiva said...

Reb Dov, you say this has never happened before. I don't know. There's been major world events and major statements by gedolim previously (WW2 itself, Gulf war which seemed to correspond to the Yalkut Shimoni about Arabia, the statements by the Lubavitcher Rebbe, etc). I am willing to set it all aside, pick up the family and come (done it before, lived in Israel previously).

But when? It will be turmoil for the family, major impact (education, friends, etc) for the children. And not to mention if I'll be able to feed my family there (that's why I'm back here again). What's the sign the time is right given the family impact?

I will be there, I'm planning (G-d willing) to come, myself, around the political time. But that will only be for weeks. (Thanks for the offer, I've got a friend in the Shomron I'll stay with.)

But again, when should I contribute that limited effort? And when, what's the key, should I run with the family!

MazahNacho, I agree, a group travel network and arrangements (places to stay, etc.) can make a big difference in people choosing to go (short term) or not. I'm in, contact me (email on my blog).

6/01/2005 8:50 PM  
Anonymous Yaakov said...

I'm not being personal, and please don't give an answer. Do you keep mikvah? (As I said, don't answer!!) Are you shomer shabbos? If the answer to these questions (or the 613 variations thereto) is not affirmitive, then the biggest shot you can fire in milchemes Bais Dovid (the war of the House of David--Moshiach) is to overcome your inertia/trepidation/reluctance in specific mitzvos -- thus conquering the "goy asher b'kirbecha", the goy who is within you. Conquering the goy within (who can always find a good reason not to do a mitzvah) is what brings about the conquering of the goyim b'pashtus. As the contrary example of 10 of Teves, when the armies of Nevuchadnezzar laid seige to Yerushalayim: this only came about because the Jews were internally under seige from their evil inclinations.

The steps of man are planned, but yiras shomayim (fear of heaven) and Torah and Mitzvos are in your own hands. They are the key to not only your personal redemption, but the geulah of the entire Klal Yisroel, may we see it immediately, Amen!

6/01/2005 8:59 PM  
Blogger Akiva said...

Reb Yaakov, this is a good point. Yet, Eretz Yisroel was not physically rebuilt by those learning in New York. Davening, tehillim, learning, all have a great impact. So does standing in the road with mesiras nefesh (while davening and saying tehillim!).

The many who have come or returned to yiddishkeit didn't come running in through the shul door (though maybe in a few cases), someone had to go, out there, to find them, draw them, and actually build the shul for them to come to.

What is the action for this time? And when should that action be engaged? And that may involve mesiras nefesh to truly be effective.

Of course, we must learn, daven, do Torah and mitzvot, to prepare, strengthen, and ready ourselves.

6/02/2005 12:04 AM  
Anonymous Yaakov said...

"When a young man engages in the learning of Torah, to a certain extent he guards the land more than a young man placing his life in danger at the border. On the other hand, though, there is a definite advantage to defending the land from the border - because of the actual self-sacrifice involved. Each of them, then, has his advantage: Whether it be the student learning Torah, or the soldier guarding the border.... "

The Lubavitcher Rebbe, 19 Kislev 5743 (1982)

6/02/2005 12:26 AM  
Blogger MatzahNacho said...

Engaging in Torah and mitzvot are clearly extremely important, and it's possible that there are those of us who, for whatever reason, just plain can't physically be in Israel right now, and may need to do our part at a distance, studying Torah, doing mitzvot, and things like we're doing right now, communicating and trying to be as informed as possible and getting that information to others.

6/02/2005 1:22 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Dear All Who Want to be Part of This Ge'ulah Process:

I will write you by mid-next week with more details regarding to where you can make a contribution and with whom you can be in contact here to participate in this summer's festivities. Until then the Save The Gush site above has a Paypal link for those who want to make a contribution through Paypal for the residents of Gush Katif and the Northern Shomron.

In addition www.womeningreen.org does excellent work. One can donate to them by Paypal or by credit card at their web-site. They will surely take a leadership role in the civil disobedience this summer.

Dov Bar-Leib

6/02/2005 2:50 PM  
Blogger chabadnik said...

Yaakov, Where is your source for telling someone to drop one mitzvah they're planning to do (coming to eretz yisrael to perform the mitzva of pikuach nefesh by helping to block the danger of giving land to terrorists) in favor of other mitzvot (mikvah). Surely, the Rebbe never discouraged anyone from doing one mitzvah for another - he would encourage them to do the mitzvah they're already planning on doing and other ones as well.

But most astonishing is that you're giving this advice when you don't even know of any mitzvah in which this woman is lacking. So you're assuming that there must be some mitzva she could do instead of pikuach nefesh - never mind that pikuach nefesh overrides even shabbat (and the Rebbe himself pointed out that land to terrorists indeed pushes off shabat in his letter to Chief R' of Engl. Jacobovitz) and that you have no right to throw cold water on someone's plan to perform a mitzva by assuming that they're not doing some other mitzva.

I hope you're not doing this in order to feel better yourself about staying in chu'l and avoiding the mitzvot involved in being here in EY.

6/05/2005 12:21 AM  
Anonymous Yaakov Nathan said...

Chabadnik, there are numerous published letters (in English, not to mention Igros) from the Rebbe stating exactly what I wrote. See also the maamor "Amar Rav Oshaya" which explains the underpinnings of everything the Rebbe ever said in time of physical danger to Eretz Yisroel--the mitzvas of a Jew in one place protect a Jew in another place. It is the essence of the tefillin campaign, which began before the 6-day war, etc.

6/06/2005 9:06 PM  
Blogger chabadnik said...

No one's arguing against increasing in mitvot, chas veshalom. I was arguing that I never saw the Rebbe discourage a person from doing 1 mitzva in order to do anothe. Ada raba, the Rebbe always encouraged people to do more than their original plans. So say, "in addition to going to EY for pikuach nefesh, also consider ..."

6/07/2005 1:25 PM  
Blogger AharonBenjamin said...

Beautiful yidden, on parshas Ki Tetzeh 5748, the Lubavitcher Rebbe taught us that "the only thing that we need to accomplish now in order to bring the geulah shleima, is to achieve simcha in its purity - if you don't believe me than try it and see for yourself".

May HaShem grant us that whatever we set out to do, whether it be physically going to the Holy Land to be with our brothers and sisters in their hour of need - or whether it be increasing in our Torah and Mitvoths, as R'Yaakov Nosson wisely suggested - may HaShem help us and grant us that we should do this all with real and pure simcha.

6/15/2005 12:18 PM  

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