Thursday, September 12, 2019

The Upcoming Election: For Whom to Vote

It has been a long time since I posted.  I have wanted to post recently, but I have had to deal with a series of crises regarding several matters.  Not all of them have worked out perfectly, but my daughter is back home with us in Israel while other things are slowly being worked out, Baruch HaShem.  So to get back into the mood of posting, I thought I would start by just posting.  I am working on an important post about how quickly we are careening toward Geulah.  But that post will be for later.  Right now I want to post about the Israeli election, the critical election that lies before us.  There is a better than 75% chance that this second election in 6 months will end up with no government a second time.  According to a famous medrash, two inconclusive elections at the end of days will end up with Mashiach coming before a third such attempted election can take place.  From the Talmud Sanhedrin 78a:

The disciples of Rabbi Yossi the son of Kisma questioned him, asking when the son of David (the Messiah) will appear. And he answered: I am afraid you will request from me a sign as well. And they assured him that they would not. He then said to them: When this gate will fall, be rebuilt and fall again, be rebuilt again and fall again. And before it will be rebuilt for the third time the Messiah will appear. Tractate Sanhedrin (98a).


According to Rav Yekutiel Fish, these gates are attempted governments.  A government will fall which it did late in 2018.  There will be two elections where governments cannot be formed, and before there is a third such election Mashiach will come.....  Well this 17th of Elul (17th Sept 2019) is the second such election.  Now the 17th of Elul is not just another date.  It is the first time that the Dove was sent out from Noach's Ark which returned that evening because it could find no rest for its foot.  No place in Eretz Yisrael to settler or even to pluck an olive branch which it did the following week on the 23rd or the 24th of Elul when Noach sent forth the Dove a second time.  (the 23rd of Elul if that Elul in the year of the Flood only had 29 days or the 24th of Elul if the Elul in the year of the Flood had 30 days).  It turns out that there was a time exactly 80 years ago when the Dove, Klal Yisrael, had no place to rest its feet since the gates to Eretz Yisrael were closed.  That date was the 17th of Elul 5699 (1st Sept 1939) when Hitler Yemach Shmo invaded Poland.  3 million Polish Jews would then be murdered because they had no place to run to, no place to rest their feet.  The British under Chamberlain had closed the entrance gate to Eretz Yisrael.  So the Dove was truly stuck, and the murder of 90% of Polish Jewry over 5 1/2 years was assured.  So the first time the Dove was sent forth with no place to rest in Eretz Yisrael for its feet was on the 17th of Elul 5699 (1st Sept 1939).  

Several decades later we arrive at the 23rd of Elul 5761 (11th Sept 2001).  It was a Tuesday, and it was precisely one week before Rosh HaShannah.  Even the Ashkenazim had started saying Selichot, joining the Sephardic world that started saying Selichot on Rosh Chodesh Elul.  So many Jews who were saying Selichot were late to work that morning of Sept 11th at the World Trade Center.  It was approximately 8:45am when the first tower was hit, and shortly thereafter, 17 minutes later, the second tower was also hit when 19 Wahhabi Muslim terrorists (the total on four separate planes) took over the cockpits in order to fly two planes into the twin towers of the World  Trade Center and one plane into the Pentagon.  Now, we ask, why the World Trade Center?  What does that have to do with the Dove returning to the Ark with an Olive Branch in its Mouth, about which Rashi says "Better are the Bitter Olive fruits of the Hands of G-d than the Sweet as honey fruits of the hands of Man."  It must be remembered that the Dove picked that olive branch from Eretz Yisrael.  So the Dove, preferring its Freedom and its dependence upon G-d, chose that bitter fruit to return to the Ark.  In our Galut of the last 1900 years, one thing united the Ashkenazic and Sephardic world in terms of how Jews in that long galut could earn a significant parnassah.  Specifically in the Ashkenazic world Jews could either collect the taxes at the behest of the King of the Land Owners, Lend Money at interest to non-Jews since the Xtian world did not allow Xtians into this profession. and to engage in global international mercantile trade.  As a matter of fact, this last profession was a favorite of Jews in the Sephardic world too.  Even the Rambam's brother, upon vowing to support the Rambam's learning for a portion of the Rambam's Olam HaBa, was a World or International Trader.  In so many ways, the surest yet riskiest way to wealth in the world was for Jews in both the Xtian and the Muslim world to be involved in global trade for 1900 years.  Sadly the Rambam's brother died on one of his global trade expeditions.  Yet, Global or World Trade was the key to accessing the sweet fruit of the hands of Man over the course of our long exile even with those risks.  So on that very day dedicated to rejecting those sweet fruits for the bitter fruits of Eretz Yisrael, those Two Towers of World Trade came a tumbling down.  And many Jews understood that message, and in the early 2000s came on Aliyah.

So over the course of 80 years, we have passed from the 17th of Elul through the 23rd or the 24th of Elul to what potentially could be Rosh HaShanah of total freedom to be with our King in the Holy Land, free from all encumbrances with the gentile world.  I am not saying for sure that this is that year when the Dove finally comes to rest in Eretz Yisrael on Rosh HaShanah, but our 80 years of Gevurot seem to be climaxing because of this coming election.

Those who read this blog know that I have written extensively about how Bibi Netanyahu is the last leader before Mashiach comes based on the Yichus of this last leader described meticulously in Zecharia 12.  As that last leader is assassinated by the Erev Rav (or forced to leave politics because of looming phony indictments), Ben David rises in the chaos.  That chaos can easily be created by a second election in which no one can form a government.  From Zecharia 12 we see that this last leader must be from the House of Natan..... check.  He must be a Levite ...... check.  And he must intensely hold to the mantle of Shimi ben Geira to destroy Amaeleq in the Persian Empire ....... check.  Bibi has all three yichus points to his name.  He IS that leader.  Now since Rav Meir Kahane zt"l, the last Mashiach ben Yosef to die a violent death was for all intents and purposes murdered by ARMiLuS (Ehud OLMeRT, notice the same consonants) when Olmert wrote the Kach Law banning him from the Knesset.  (2 years later Kahane was murdered by an assassin.)  So Bibi, does not have to suffer the same fate at the hands of Armilus, and he may yet survive, albeit after passing the scepter of leadership over to Mashiach as he is forced to leave the scene.  In short, with this election we are about to enter the Zecharia 12 Twilight Zone.  On that note, we should see an opening for Mashiach ben David to enter from stage right, even if none of the candidates running is Mashiach himself...., but one of them might very well be Mashiach's Lawyer in the Erev Rav Courts and in the dungeons where Shabak can hold young men for months on end without a Writ of Habeas Corpus.  One such man was Meir Ettinger who was the leader of the Yordei Duma, those falsely accused of arson/ murder by Shabak, in the Duma Arson case.  He was held without trial and without charge and without evidence for 10 full months.  On that note, I introduce to you, his Attorney during those dark months, Itamar ben Gvir.

I am voting for Otzma now for sure since they have now crossed the Kav Chassimah in at least 7 different polls in one week since Feiglin, blessedly, dropped out.

I believe that Itamar ben Gvir is NOT Mashiach, but he is very likely Mashiach's lawyer in the lowly Erev Rav Courts and in the dungeon's of Shabak's Jewish Division torture chambers.  I am sure that they have a 500 year old Torqemada torture rack which they proudly used against Meir Ettinger and the other Yordei Duma, those tortured by Shabak to extract confessions when they were trying to frame young "hilltop" youth for the Duma Arson/Murder case.  Writ of Habeas Corpus?  Are you kidding?  There is no such burden of evidence to torture 20 or 25 year old idealists here in Israel.  But, there was Itamar ben Gvir the entire time trying to defend the rights of young men who technically had no rights.

So if you want to open of the door for Mashiach ben David as Bibi stumbles and for the second time in a row is not able to form a government, you have no choice but to vote for OTZMA YEHUDIT.   Right now, Otzma is on a knife's edge.  There is a chance that he will not cross the 3.25% of the vote necessary to get at least 4 seats in the Knesset.  So only vote for him if you are sick and tired of the sheker that this country's political system runs on while at least voting for a party with a greater than 50% chance of getting the minimum votes.  Otzma should have been included in Yamina's umbrella technical bloc, but because of Sinat Chinam on Rosh Chodesh Av, Otzma was not included in that technical bloc, and Ayelet Shaked failed in her potential role as Ayelet HaShachar.  So perhaps, perhaps, this is the way, Mashiach's lawyer might get his foot into the door as the Levite grandson of the House of Natan falters.


130 Comments:

Blogger 814 אורנה ניצבת said...

Bs''d

Welcome back and thank you for this post.
Did you check the gematria of someone with almost same face as O lmert, the name but without first letter of the evil prince. De ganze wereld zal het weten, dat Hashem Yitbarah is G'd.
May you and your family be blessed by finding shalom in ERETZ YISRAEL.

9/12/2019 11:49 PM  
Blogger Lisa said...

any comments about gideon saar??? rav kessim mentions him in his lecture. thank you for your post.

9/13/2019 12:46 AM  
Blogger Devorah said...

Exciting post Dov

9/13/2019 12:55 AM  
Blogger Devorah said...

Doesn’t sa’ar mean gate in Hebrew? Coincidence ?

9/13/2019 1:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Always thought with others who said the same that the 'vulture' was Armelus; sure fits the bill.
Also, read years ago from Barry Chamish that he didn't trust Ben Gvir. He said he was a shabak agent. Could that be true?

Anyway, we have to do is pray, do teshuvah & chesed and tzedaka to hasten MBD's coming.

9/13/2019 2:07 AM  
Blogger Leah said...

Ah, a new post, Dov. Hope all is well with you and family.
Excellent post. So much going on with elections. Waiting to see what will happen.

9/13/2019 3:54 AM  
Blogger Gavriela Dvorah said...

So glad your back! Great post. May it be so!

9/13/2019 7:27 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

IY”H all your worries will turn into blessings.
B”H You’re back for now. So glad to hear from you.

Devorah, kudos to you. Dov, does Sa’ar = gate? Or סער?
Or is Sar = Minister?

Any Hebrew linguists want to comment on this?

9/13/2019 10:09 AM  
Blogger Yitzi said...

Just a few days ago I decided to vote for OTZMA YEHUDIT as the result of a WhatsApp message forwarded to me by a friend. I had previously announced to my circle of friends and family that since Moshe Feiglin had folded to Bibi, I was switching my vote to Yamina in an attempt to strengthen the right knowing that Bibi is weak on issues dear to us. He is on the razor's edge in order to form a government and will need Yamina and the rest of the right for a coalition. I see Bibi as the only realistic PM at this time who would not put the country into a tailspin on security and the economy. So my voting strategy is to pull Bibi to the right by giving strength to right-wing parties that have a chance to make the threshold. OTZMA YEHUDIT according to many polls is at or just over the threshold, and by adding OTZMA YEHUDIT to the kenesset we will bring "fresh blood" to the right that will tip the government in a way that Yaminia is not willing to do on its own. Further, votes to Yamina are wasted in a sense since it appears they will safely pass the threshold without additional votes. Therefore bringing Yamina into the government is the best strategy to strengthen it.

Following is the message that was forwarded to me via my friend in three more parts due to the limit of 4096 chars enforced per post by the blog...

9/13/2019 10:19 AM  
Blogger Yitzi said...

Part 1 The convoy of victory for Otzmah Yehudit -

The convoy of victory for Otzmah Yehudit - The goal to raise Otzmah from 4 to 6-7 seats in the polls and in the ballot!

        After decades of being politically inactive, I have decided together with dozens of friends that in the few remaining days until the elections we must all fight like crazy with creativity and  wisdom around the clock to ensure a overwhelming victory for the Otzmah Yehudit party, which will not only translate into a victory for the right, but for all Jews worldwide and for the entire State of Israel. Through our support of Ben-Gvir and Otzmah Yehudit-Kaf, we will G-dwilling open a historic window in order to save Israel from its enemies and from itself, particularly in view of the "deal of the century" which contains clauses that threaten Jewish sovereignty over Jerusalem and other key areas of Israel and will be published immediately following the elections.

          I call forth to all of those who hold Eretz Yisrael dear to their hearts to join the victory convoy on behalf of Ben-Gvir and Otzmah Yehudit. With G-d's help, our convoy will travel from town to town with Dov Shurin and other talented musicians; with representatives from the Russian, Amharic, French, English, secular, traditional, and religious communities. We hope that our convoy will come within direct contact with hundreds of thousands of people in these dew remaining days to bring about a political revolution - to convince the many disenfranchised who have given up on Israeli politics long ago to go out and vote this time, and to exercise their basic democratic right - Because this time we have someone to vote for. We will also appeal to sectors of the population that Otzmah has not yet effectively reached out to such as the Russian speaking population - after all every vote that we take back from Lieberman fake right to Otzmah and to the real right is a double victory and worth 2 votes - a vote which is no longer empowering the left but rather supporting the right wing camp.

Rebuttals and reasons to vote for Otzmah Yehudit.

Bibi cannot mathematically form a government without Otzmah

            To all of those who support a right wing government, and to all of those who agree that a government headed by Bibi is more right than a Lapid led government, you are left with no choice but to vote for Otzmah - a simple calculation: the right wing camp without Otzmah is worth 54-57 seats according to all of the polls. Despite the despicable scare campaign launched by Bennet and Yeminah against Ben-Gvir claiming that Ben-Gvir does not stand a chance to pass the minimum threshold required, Ben-Gvir already has shown in the most recent polls that he has already passed that minimum threshold. (See Yisrael HaYom poll Friday and the recent Knesset poll.) Therefore Otzmah Yehudit is the only chance we have to form a Bibi government.


9/13/2019 10:20 AM  
Blogger Yitzi said...

Part 2 The convoy of victory for Otzmah Yehudit -

We must not aid lowly ingrates - Bennet and other Ben-Gvir detractors are bound to once again fall below the minimal threshold themselves.

     How absurd is it that Bennet and Yeminah are investing no less than a fortune to collectively shoot the right wing camp in the foot with their hysterical and desperate political war cry not to vote for Ben-Gvir. There is nothing more despicable than an ingrate.  They have conveniently forgotten that Yeminah would not even be sitting in the current Knesset and governement without the help of Ben-Gvir and Otzmah constituents in the previous elections. Ben-Gvir saved the right in the last elections and is poised to once again rescue the right in these upcoming elections. If I were Bennet, I would shut up. He betrayed the right wing camp in the last elections when he jumped ship leaving the Jewish Home party. Measure for measure, he himself, together with Shaked, did not succeed in passing the minimal threshold in spite of the polls and the warm embrace from the media which erroneously projected them winning 10 seats. This time, it would not be a surprise if specifically Bennet and Shaked do not pass the threshold, while Ben-Gvir stands to receive 6-7 seats.



It is known that Israel is an overwhelmingly right wing country and who is more right than Ben-Gvir?

       It is obvious that Ben-Gvir will serve as a gadfly to pull the Likkud and Yeminah parties further to the right and to balance policies to better represent the spirit of the nation. For far too long the Jewish electorate in Israel has been suffering after all elections, despite what should have been their happiest moment. They want right. They vote for those who categorize themselves as right in order to hijack the right wing votes but in the end they receive two left feet. For governments that have included Bibi, Bennet, Shaked, Smotritch and the military headed by the lefty generals of Blue and White - who also now pretend to be right ( LOL) destroy Israel's deterrent towards its enemies pays "protection" to Hamas and has prevented the IDF from enjoying any decisive victories. It is the fake right that has turned the Israeli Army into a punching bag, with rules of engagement which endanger the lives of Israeli soldiers and civilians due to the mercy of fools who are petrified of world opinion. I am sorry, Yeminah and Likkud have had their chance to win and to smash the enemy and they have failed. It is clear that the State of Israel needs a party that will stand to the right of the so called right! It is now Ben-Gvir's chance to give it a shot. Don't be surprised if Ben-Gvir receives 6-7 seats and restores a collective smile to the nation of Israel.

I and many like myself who have not participated in the political circus for many years are coming out in force to vote for Ben-Gvir; a political revolution is in the making.

        You can sense the smell the victory in the air. People have had enough with the fake right represented by Bennet, Bibi and the rest - the people want authentic right wing values especially as Trump plans to ram his "deal of the century" down Israel's throat, pressuring Israel to make more than painful concessions. It is no coincidence that Trump just appointed yet another heimishe yid (happy Jew in Yiddish) to replace Mr. Jason Greenblatt and to help sell the deal to the Jews of Zion. Trump has a high enough opinion of himself and is a good enough dealmaker to present a deal that he feels he can sell. Why would he be appointing such a team if he did not foresee Jewish resistance?

9/13/2019 10:20 AM  
Blogger Yitzi said...

Part 3 The convoy of victory for Otzmah Yehudit -
 
    A historic window of opportunity has been opened in which Bibi will be dependent on Ben-Gvir to save himself from incarceration and to save Israel. Most likely Bibi, like Bibi would be more than happy to join forces after the elections and to form a national unity government with the left. This would enable him to more comfortably accept the Trump plan. However, it seems that G-d has different plans and he has hardened the heart of thte Pharoahs of the Blue and White party as they continue to reiterate "anyone but Bibi". Thus the only way for Bibi to escape his legal troubles is by forming a right wing government supported and enabled by the 4-7 seats guaranteed by Ben-Gvir, who says that he will continue to support Bibi's immunity even if Bibi is indeed indicted. My dear friends, we have no choice: Ben-Gvir's seats will G-dwilling save Israel.

This time Ben-Gvir will overcome the minimal threshold because the situation has drastically changed and because everything is from heaven.

    It is no mere coincidence that Bibi has openly legitimized Ben-Gvir and literally led the battle for these Kahane heirs to unite with the mainstream right. It is also no coincidence that Feiglin's Zehut party agreed to drop out of the race causing many if his supporters to now join Otzmah. It is neither a coincidence that Merzel and Ben-Ari were banned leaving a much more popular and charismatic Ben-Gvir to head the party. Otzmah is receiving yet another huge boost from the #2 person on the ballot, a highly educated and respected woman, a known activist for social reform whose baby daughter was murdered in a terrorist attack. It is no coincidence that Yigal Bibi one of the most well-known national religious politicians who served in the Knesset for many years with the Mavdal party, has transformed into one of the most fervent Ben-Gvir supporters. Knesset members in the Yeminah party who have openly acknowledged that Ben-Gvir is the only one who can currently save the right in these upcoming elections under the current political constellation. It is no coincidence that some of the most prominent religious Zionist rabbis such as Rabbi Dov Lior have openly endorsed Ben-Gvir. It is no coincidence that the Noam party has emerged from nowhere to run a smooth and effective digital campaign showing the nakedness of the Yeminah party which depicts them as being neither right nor particularly Jewish. This campaign is helping Otzmah Yehudit more than Noam. It is no coincidence that the High Court as again succeeded in angering the majority of Jews in Israel by the severe injustice against Merzel, Gupstein and Ben-Ari who are banned while Arab terrorist sympathizers were given a green light to run for Knesset. Who if not Ben-Gvir will stand up against such injustice in the future? Whoever wishes to volunteer to join the convoy for the victory of Otzmah or to help finance the convoy and this independent ad campaign can contact me directly. 054487XXXX

        With love of Israel, Yekutiel Ben-Yaakov, 054487XXXX.

I have intentionally obscured the phone number so as to not publish it where anyone could find it on the internet to harass him.

9/13/2019 10:29 AM  
Blogger Yitzi said...

Correction to my post of 9/13/2019 at 10:19 AM, The sencence "Therefore bringing Yamina into the government is the best strategy to strengthen it."

It should have read, Therefore bringing OTZMA YEHUDIT into the government is the best strategy to strengthen it.

Sorry for the error in proofreading my comment.

9/13/2019 11:23 AM  
Anonymous Devorah in Chicago said...

OMG! Dov! you were SO RIGHT ON! I followed your LINK to Tuesday, April 28, 2015... You said you sent this to a bunch of people…well, you called me that day as I was driving into the parking lot of Trader Joe’s in Chicago with my friend Rachel. You were beyond excited about something. I told my friend to start her shopping & I’d catch up with her. (I just looked at my calendar on that date, & sure enough, I always took her shopping on Tuesdays & it was on that same date.) You were so “out of breath” & spoke so fast & said what you had figured out about Bibi. I basically just tucked this new information to the back of my head as I thought about it with a few questions that I couldn’t quite reconcile at the time. I forgot that you posted everything that day. Now fast forward to NOW, almost 4.5 years later...I’m amazed...but you were DEAD ON RIGHT!! It’s amazing the way that you think, Dov! Kol haKavod!

9/13/2019 11:32 AM  
Blogger Ginno Ricci said...

Do you really believe Meir Ettinger is the Mashiach? With all due respect, Mashiach can't be simply an idealist young man. It has to be a big talmid chacham and skillful leader.

I hope Otzma gets into the knesset, but I'm voting for Shas out of respect for the wishes of Maran Ovadia Yosef z''l. I'm not worried because I know voting for Shas is like voting for a Bibi coalition that protects the interests of the Torah (which brings us more merits to defeat our enemies). If Bibi is not Prime Minister, NOBODY should be. We should have only Mashiach ben David.

9/13/2019 1:05 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

What was David ben Yishai when he sat in the field and wrote poetry (ditto for Meir)
Song for Purim about Amalek's war and the life of doubt.

9/13/2019 1:46 PM  
Blogger HDG, Yerushalayim, E"Y Shlemah said...

Devorah wrote: "Doesn’t sa’ar mean gate in Hebrew? Coincidence ?"

Neshama wrote: " Dov, does Sa’ar = gate? Or סער?
Or is Sar = Minister?

"Any Hebrew linguists want to comment on this?"


No, and no. Sar שַׂר means minister. Sha'ar שַׁעַר means gate. I suppose that point of fact might still be significant in some way for Gideon Saar (גדעון סער)!

I leave that to Dov, particularly because of the letters: the samekh instead of the sin and the shin.

Now that I'm looking at it, is it possible that both words have to do with him?

(I copied these Hebrew words, with nikud and without, from Morfix.co.il.)

9/13/2019 2:28 PM  
Blogger Devash said...

For what it's worth, I think Meir Ettinger is a gilgul of his grandfather Meir Kahane. Rabbi Kahane of blessed memory was murdered on Nov.5, 1990 and Meir Ettinger was born to his daughter Tova on Oct. 4, 1991.

It's funny to me that Rabbi Kahane's enemies thought to be rid of him and all the murderers did was give him a new lease on life, so to speak, so he could come back stronger than ever.

At the soul level, we all have the knowledge we gained over our lifetimes and that knowledge will become accessible at the appropriate time for each of us, so I don't think you can discount anyone as Mashiach based on age, experience or current level of education. We just don't know who they "were" in the past.

Many current rabbis have said everyone today is a gilgul. Just because you are a "nobody" today doesn't mean you weren't a "somebody" in a prior incarnation.

9/13/2019 2:43 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Sa'ar is spelled with a Samech. His last name means Storm. He is the anti-thesis of the part of the Erev Rav that is represented by the Stormy Wind which G-d is not a part of. The Stormy Wind is Erev Rav's membership in the World Communist Labor Movement. The Great Noise is the Erev Rav in the Electronic Media (Noni Mozes and Yair Lapid). And the Flashing Fire is the Erev Rav in the Legal system (Israeli Supreme Court or Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Elana Kagan on the US Supreme Court). G-d showed Eliyahu these three things to show him what He would not be a part of at the End of Days.

So if Jewish involvement in international labor in Israel falls apart, Sa'ar should rise. Continued...

9/13/2019 3:22 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Sa'ar has a tremendous merit which reflects that Hevron must rise to Shaar HaNun before Yerushalayim rises to Shaar HaNun because Bein Adam LeChaveiro lishma (righteousness between Man and Man for its own sake) must precede Bein Adam leMakom lishma (holiness between Man and G-d for its own sake). So Hevron must rise to the 50th Gate BEFORE Yerushalayim rises to the 50th Gate.

Gideon Sa'ar has a special relationship with the City of Hevron. When he was Education Minister between 2009 and 2013, he required that every Jewish Israeli child had to take one field trip to Hevron to see the Jewish community there and to visit the Cave of the Patriarchs. Saar as Education Minister So by his elevating Hevron at this critical time, he merited to potentially elevate Hevron to +50 when the time comes.

And there is a pact between Sa'ar and Pres. Rivlin, the 7th Generation Kol HaTor, that when Bibi cannot form the next Govt, Sa'ar should be given the next opportunity. So when chaos develops after the Elections, Sa'ar will be given the first shot to bring order to the chaos. I have no idea how successful he will be.

9/13/2019 3:41 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Some words from the ...............

Meir Ettinger on the Elections

9/13/2019 4:02 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

When Yair Lapid entered the Knesset in 2013, the Education Ministry was given to Yesh Atid's Shai Piron. Piron's first order of business was to reverse Gidon Sa'ar's Hevron project that every Jewish child should take a school trip to Hevron. So the Erev Rav reversed Sa'ar's initiative. The first or second thing that hits you when you descend to the tarmac at Ben Gurion upon making Aliyah is the intensity of the spiritual war that is raging here. 3 steps forward followed by 2 steps backwards. It ain't easy.

9/13/2019 4:05 PM  
Anonymous Gershon Wynschenk[George] said...

Saar would mean storm-tossed or turbulent as in the Haftarah for my Bar-Mitzvah[ ''Re'eh ''] ''Aniah Sa'arah''[''Storm-tossed city''[Yerushalayim.] Yeshaya 54:11.

9/13/2019 4:27 PM  
Blogger Rachel said...

Thank you for your post, Dov, things are sure heating up. May Hashem's will be done and may we be redeemed THIS year!

9/13/2019 5:50 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I wanted to respond to as many questions as I could, but we are hosting a Qiddush this coming Shabbat. So this week, setting aside time will be difficult. About the election, Otzma crossed in all the final polls. I realize that they are close to the Achuz Chassimah, the cutoff percenrage of 3.25%. Voting for them is risky. Only vote for them if you are sick and tired of the sheker permeating the rest of the political system. Shavua tov.

9/15/2019 9:29 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I for one, am sick and tired of it. So I am voting for Otzma

9/15/2019 9:30 AM  
Blogger HDG, Yerushalayim, E"Y Shlemah said...

I am sick and tired too, but, just to confuse things more, there is one other party whose selling point is as an alternative to the current system: Noam. Any reason NOT to vote for them? It can't be just because they're new.

Earlier on I pledged my vote to them. Is this a vow and, if so, what do I have to do if I want to get out of it - just in case the case for Otzma is better? It would seem that the less division on the right, the better. And I realize that Noam has been playing one note. I'll have to ask them if there's more music...like sovereignty, in their platform.

Please hurry, voting is in 2 days!

9/15/2019 10:14 AM  
Blogger HDG, Yerushalayim, E"Y Shlemah said...

I printed out this post and read it to my husband on Shabbat. His question: What is your source for the 17 Elul date for the dove being sent out from Noach's Ark?

Many thanks in advance.

9/15/2019 10:20 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

WHAT ARE THE LETTERS OF OTZMA TO LOOK FOR WHEN ONE VOTES?
Anyone?

9/15/2019 11:20 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The problem with voting for Noam is that they do not have a 50% chance of crossing the minimum percentage. Noam's poll numbers are always less than 1%. It truly is a wasted vote and a wasted electoral attempt to see this through. At least Ben Gvir's and Adva Biton's odds are 50% or greater. If all Noam voters were to vote for Otzma, Otzma would surely cross.

Also why did they quit their negotiated unity with Otzma? Why is there a halakhic problem to run with a woman on the list? I fail to see the moral or halakhic problem of an Orthodox woman serving in an elected capacity. She is a politician not a Dayanah or a Rabbi.

9/15/2019 11:25 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

And Adva is Shomeret Shabbat and dresses modestly. So why can't she serve as a legislator?

9/15/2019 11:27 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

כף are Otzma's letters...., not to be cobfused with כך which would have certainly gotten Otzma banned.

9/15/2019 11:30 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

HDG: According to Rav Eliezer who says the world was created in Tishrei, the first day of the first month (until the Exodus from Egypt in 2448) was the 1st of Tishrei. The Dove came to rest when released a third time on that day. So the first time the Dove was sent was either on the 16thor 17th Elul 1656, the year of the Flood. If Elul had 29 days, then the Dove was sent first on the 16th. If Elul that yr had 30 days, the Dove was sent on the 17th Elul. The second time the Dove was sent when he returned with an olive branch was 23 or 24 Elul.

9/15/2019 12:15 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The Elul as opposed to Adar dates for the Sending forth of the Dove are based on the fact that until the Nissan of Yetziat Mitzraim in 2448, Tishrei was therefore the first month, for Adam HaRishon was judged on 1 Tishrei. Starting with Qiddush Levanah for Nissan 2448, Nissan became the first month while Tishrei became the 7th month. This would infer that the Flood began on the 17th of the 2nd month 1656 where the 2nd month was MarCheshvan. When the Dove is finally sent and does not return, that date clearly stated in the Torah is 1st Tishrei 1657. Each time the Dove was sent and returned, he was sent again 7 days later, also clearly stated in the Torah.

9/15/2019 1:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Noam withdrawing from election

9/15/2019 2:47 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Yep, Noam's withdrawing certainly helps Otzma's chances.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/268902

9/15/2019 2:59 PM  
Blogger Yitzi said...

If all of their voters go to Otzma it could add two seats to Otzma.

9/15/2019 5:50 PM  
Blogger HDG, Yerushalayim, E"Y Shlemah said...

I asked my rabbi and he said pledging your vote is not a vow. Moot point anyway because as noted above, Noam withdrew.

I only hope that Mashiah comes as a result of how these elections turn out.

9/15/2019 6:29 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Even if Otzma can get half of Noam's votes, it would secure their position. Like Chabad though, a significant portion on Noam's voters will vote for Gimel because of UTJ's new Shleimut Eretz Yisrael position.

9/15/2019 6:54 PM  
Blogger HDG, Yerushalayim, E"Y Shlemah said...

I heard about UTJ's new position vis á vis their teshuva on EY! Doesn't Otzma already have that?

9/15/2019 7:45 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

HDG: THERE are several events colliding at the same time. This election is just one of them although it will likely play a key role. There is also the matter of the indictments meant to remove Bibi from power. There is the fact that he is likely the last PM who formed a stable govt.

And then there is Persian backed Houthi rebels in YEMEN closing down over half of Saudi oil production with a missile attack before what might be a fateful Rosh HaShannah.

9/15/2019 7:47 PM  
Blogger HDG, Yerushalayim, E"Y Shlemah said...

Also, apparently the Left is getting ready to shut down all religious practices in E"Y if they win.

Whomever I choose to vote for in the end must have seriousness about two issues:

1)Jewish sovereignty over the Land and

2) Preservation of the Jewish People, as a people and not as a secular pretension, and that includes the best we have of religion until Mashiah is revealed.

And not necessarily in that order. Just because I can't write both ideas in the same breath! I hold them both equally. How much discussion has there been on these?

Regarding sovereignty, there has been talk about taking full responsibility over Emek haYarden. Additionally, they are taking responsibility for ridding us of the Jordanian/Ottoman/British system for buying land in Yehuda/Shomron. Finally...but will they make it before the election?

And JONATHAN POLLARD (and his wife ESTHER YOCHEVED, may she live)? This could have been an easy win for Bibi and the Right, but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...

9/15/2019 8:26 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

In today’s climate, Most people cannot make intelligent, logical, and un-biased decisions, because of biased, detrimental and fake information being pushed onto the public. Most people are confused about the basics of life.

That is why something must happen to surprise and shock the Israelis in this election, and it will be minhashamayim! It has to come out of all this caos and mayhem.

9/15/2019 9:13 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

HDG, that goes for the PM who also “pledged” a lot in his hysterical frenzy to win at all costs.
He knows he won’t be able to make good on that “pledge of sovereignty”. What a faker.
Did anyone read about the respected and educated Mrs Adelman who said some eye-opening facts about the Mrs PM?
It should have been on all the news sites, but “the election censors” got to it first.

9/15/2019 9:34 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

I really don’t believe that this election will cause Mashiach to suddenly appear. Some people have that wrong. There needs to be an interim ruling govt of sorts in order to bring the hearts of the Israelis closer to a Torah way of life. The setting is not ripe for him to take charge.
But let’s hope I’m wrong.

9/15/2019 9:40 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

There is one more detail to throw into the mix. Trump has been advised to avoid war with Iran/ North Korea at all costs prior to what is assumed will be his re-election in early November 2020. He has been advised probably correctly that War with Iran in the next 14 months would cause him to lose re-election. So in order to listen to political advisers about this, he fired John Bolton (or Bolton resigned) to make the point to his electorate that he wants to avoid war with Iran at all costs. He will negotiate with Iran until he is blue in his face .... at least for the next 14 months. The problem is obvious. Trump risks turning a war in which millions might die into a war in which 2 billion people might die when Iran/ N. Korea ultimately develop long range ICBMs which can successively deliver nuclear payloads. This is the danger that may likely be ordained by Heaven if Trump successfully delays confrontation with Persia for another 14 months.

9/15/2019 9:42 PM  
Blogger Devash said...

Dov, it's worse than you think. The Houthis launched their drones from IRAQ!

9/15/2019 9:42 PM  
Blogger Devash said...

Re: Houthi attack, see HERE.

9/15/2019 9:45 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Lots of intersectionality here. Persian supported Yemeni rebels fire missiles against Aramco in Saudi Arabia from Ancient Babylon!

9/15/2019 9:50 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Trump, Locked and Loaded

9/16/2019 12:13 PM  
Blogger HolyCityPrayer said...

Gideon Sa'ar's last name (I assume this is what you are referring to) means storm. In the Bible, it mostly appears in the feminine format סערה, but at least once with out the heh, see http://tora.us.fm/tnk/find.php?q=%D7%A1%D7%A2%D7%A8 and note for example Jonah 1:4

9/16/2019 2:23 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Yes, Sa'arot Yemen is one of those times. The 3rd Blast of the Shofar for End of Days Nevu'ah, Musaph Rosh HaShanah

יד  וַיהוָה עֲלֵיהֶם יֵרָאֶה, וְיָצָא כַבָּרָק חִצּוֹ; וַאדֹנָי יְהוִה בַּשּׁוֹפָר יִתְקָע, וְהָלַךְ בְּסַעֲרוֹת תֵּימָן.14 And the L-rD shall be seen over them, and His arrow shall go forth as the lightning; and the L-rd G-D will blast the Shofar, and will go with Stormwinds of the Yemen!

9/16/2019 3:47 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The 3rd and final blast.....

OMyG-d this is it!
Shabbat the 14th of Elul 5779, A DATE THAT WILL LIVE IN IMFAMY!!!!!!!!!!

9/16/2019 3:53 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Comparisons to
Pearl Harbor

9/16/2019 4:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nothing is going to happen as a result of the oil attack. As usual we get ahead of ourselves.
Dan

9/16/2019 4:36 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Wow, a must listen to is Rabbi Kessin (at ShiratDevorah), especially the last one third, and super especially the last few minutes!! He also explains AGAIN that the Mashiach we think we are waiting for is someone so elevated we are not prepared for him. Hashem will come Himself and “bring us to Him” just like how we were “taken" from Mitzrayim, and were reborn ….

9/16/2019 6:38 PM  
Blogger CKHL said...



Moshiach

9/16/2019 8:13 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

So The US Dollar is the world's reserve Currency ONLY because the Saudis refuse to trade in another currency in echange for American protection from attacks precisely like this. Being the world's reserve currency permits the US to run 1 trillion dollar annual deficits. So, you believe that Trump will actually do nothing and take the risk that the dollar will no longer be the world's reserve currency, Really???

9/17/2019 1:53 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I fully understand Trump's predicament. He certainly will not be re-elected if he responds in force against Iran's economic terror on Saudi oil production. On the other hand, now that it was proven that Iran did this, he cannot afford to NOT attack directly if he wants the Saudis to preserve the US Dollar as the world's reserve currency. He is stuck between two untenable situations.

9/17/2019 2:07 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

It is estimated that he won’t attack, at least not now. And yes the world’s illegal currency is on the way out, in the form it now is in, debt, ups-downs controlled market, debt and more debt. This is hard for people to grasp but it has to come to a halt and replaced by a solid-gold-backed market. That is what these wars are all about!

9/17/2019 10:07 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Oh, that doesn’t mean there won’t be a retaliation of some sort. Keep eyes open.

9/17/2019 10:09 AM  
Blogger Maurice said...

Trump could have another option yet regarding Iran : to support a joined attack with/by Israel; as we know Israel made hundreds attacks against Iran and its proxies in Syria, Lebanon and Iraq those last years (at least 200).
By the way, last shabbat we just read in parasha Ki Tetse to "erase the spirit (or memory) of Amalek", us and not the USA alone.
So I firmly believe it is OUR role to fight Iran, even before the USA regarding their deal with Saudi Arabia regarding their important role to keep selling oil in US$ keeping the american the world's reserve currency.
It will all depend on the elections today in Israel that could be very close, and lead to another dead end to form a government.
By the way, the latest statements by Bibi about annexing the Jordan valley and even Hebron yesterday if he is reelected will resonate far beyond Bibi's election or not : it will shape Israel's politics and the next government's priorities (no matter who wins)...
I hope it will fit Hashem's plans so He will help us dealing with both our elections and Iran/Amalek in a successful and pleasant way

9/17/2019 12:01 PM  
Blogger vincent said...

Doesn't it say 'the year in' and so on, from:

“Rabbi Yitzchok said: The year in which Melech Hamashiach (Messiah king) will be revealed, all the nations of the world will be provoking each other…The king of Persia will provoke the King of Arabia. The King of Arabia, will go to Edom to take counsel and the King of Persia will threaten to destroy the entire world. The nations of the world will be outraged and panic. They will fall on their faces and will experience pains like birth pangs. Israel too, will be outraged and in a state of panic ask, “Where do we go?” (Yalkut Shimoni, Isaiah, 60:499)

So how long can this year be? A new year is coming up soon. Or how many years like that can there be? There are ways around that i suppose, ways to stretch the theory of the subject matter fit the picture. But this is just typical. We are - not the first time, things seem so close, and yet so far - being tested or teased in an incredible way. Or the spiritual level does not fit the level of patience, what would make sense. More patience from higher level of Kedusha, Emunah, and Bitachon would lead to faster (instant?) process, and less so to longer time for revelation. (?) I know smart paradoxes is more Meir Ettinger's department, but this is my best thought i have on this right now, besides detailed stuff on DPRK- Iran connections, but never mind that.

9/17/2019 4:47 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Ignore Exit Polls. Wait for real results. Wake up at 6:30am to see the Mandate distribution. Exit polls are never ever accurate. Good night

9/17/2019 10:41 PM  
Blogger Ginno Ricci said...

For all those who voted for Otzmah: Don't feel bad. Even if all your votes could be translated into one or two additional Knesset members for the right bloc, Bibi still wouldn't be able to form a coalition of at least 61 without Lieberman. And don't think for a second that the Arab parties or Lieberman would agree to be in the same government (nor should). The political blockade continues. It seems this is all from heaven. It depends on Lieberman. If he refuses to swallow his ego and stop going full force against the Torah, we will have elections again, which means a real constitutional crisis without precedent in the country's history (probably unique in all the republics with parliamentary systems of government). I don't know how this could be solved. We need a government. Forget the loss of credibility that this type of democracy will have in the eyes of the Israeli public and the international community, there's a loss of time and money that the country can't afford again, not to mention Netanyahu will remain as temporary Prime Minister in a caretaker government anyway. Maybe Mashiach will appear as a reasonable alternative to many Israelis that otherwise wouldn't support him. Who knows? I really hope Lieberman gets reasonable and stops demanding that haredim in yeshiva join the army as a precondition to join a coalition (nobody needs them in the army anyway), because if he doesn't, the country will go down the drain... perhaps he will have the halachik kingdom he's so afraid of. But I don't think this is the best way for Mashiach to come. In any case, as the great Donald says, "we'll see what happens".

9/17/2019 11:18 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

It is ovviously not the best way for Mashiach to come, but at least G-d is finished with our lowly ways. At least He is bringing Mashiach even if 80% of the population would prefer that he not come. This will not drag on into the next Shmittah cycle as a curse for our Ambivalence. The charade is wrapping up

9/17/2019 11:38 PM  
Blogger LondonMale said...

Thank you for posting again Reb Dov.

Latest noise from US Defence analysts are that the cruise missiles which hit the Saudi oil facilities were launched from Iran, the drones were launched from Iraq.
So a direct Iranian attack on Saudi Arabia!
That will have not only the Saudis and Americans troubled, but also the UAE.

L'shana Tova to all readers.

9/18/2019 2:19 AM  
Blogger David m said...

Excellent analysis, except for following:

Bush and company planned and orchestrated 9-11 - insurmountable truth (yes, the "conspirators" are telling the truth, and the government are the real conspirators). That is the "What" question - the who, why, etc. also are clear, for those that want to study it and find the truth.

911 violates fundamental laws of physics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZcVQCRvQWk

9/18/2019 6:30 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

I think the message is that all Israelis must work at achdus.
With all the speeches and appearances of Rabbanim the turnout was mild. The religious must take a different approach.
Since everything looks just the same, a 50-50 divide in the country, with the only party gaining are the Arabs.
Shamayim is waiting for the utmost last opportunity for Jews to choose the right path.
I really didn’t think there were sooo many against the religious. Where are the middle of the road traditionalists?
It’s truly disgraceful, and it seems to be getting worse.
Looks like a joint govt, without Bibi. (?)

9/18/2019 8:36 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Looks like no govt at all, making this the last election. Mashiach should arise out of the ensuing chaos. That was the nuts and bolts of this post. My vote for Otzma was registered in Shamayim, but the only govt in Israel that will follow Bibi's loss of grasp on power is the Kingdom of G-d, irregardless of Lieberman's efforts to prevent that.

9/18/2019 10:46 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

In the interim, the 7th Generation Kol HaTor, Pres Rivlin, will need to at least ask someone like Gideon Saar to try to scrounge for 61 seats (after Benny Gantz tries to accomplish that and fails).

9/18/2019 10:55 AM  
Blogger Maurice said...

Reb Dov,

One question please : you mention that Pdt Reuven Rivlin is the 7th generation since Kol Hator written by Rav Hillel de Shklov Rivlin, writing his Rav's Torah, the GRA.
But why not mention that PM Benyamin Netanyahou is also a direct descendant of the GRA too, so he should be linked to Kol Hator as well as Pdt Rivlin in the current process regarding the gueoula ?

By the way, as I mentioned previously, we have almost finished the traduction of Kol Hator in French, around 99% is OK, so I think we will release the book by the end of 5779 or the very beginning of 5780 béézrat HM

9/18/2019 1:22 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Maurice: Good pt. But I mention President Rivlin's 7 generational Yichus because Eras of beginning and completion often take 7 generations. On the side of holiness, Moshe Rabbeinu was the 7th generation completion of what started with Avraham Avinu while on the side of Klalah, Tuval Kayin was the 7 generational completion of Kayin murdering Hevel.

So here the beginning of the 7 generations of Mashiach ben Yosef began with R. Hillel Rivlin zt"l's authoring of Kol HaTor and now ends in the 7th generation with his Great great great grandson, Reuven Rivlin. Of course Bibi is a part of that 7 generational Oddysey. Of the four Mashiach ben Yosef's who preceded him, they have all died violent deaths (Yosef Trumpeldour, Avraham Yair Stern, Yonatan Netanyahu, and Rav Meir Kahane). Bibi is the first one who mar survive. And the 6th one who may never rule Yehonatan Pollard may only be released when the ankle bracelet holding Mashiach ben David in home detention is also released. More later...

9/18/2019 2:00 PM  
Blogger Maurice said...

Reb Dov : thank you very much, great explanation, I would never have find it out by myself !

9/18/2019 2:34 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Now we can see what this is all about... from JPost:

"What is clear is that we will not concede on the repeal of the mini-markets law, we will not concede on public transport on Shabbat, and not on civil marriage,” insisted Liberman.

"A precondition for our entry into the government is also core curriculum studies in the ultra-Orthodox education system. We will give only full governmental support to the ultra-Orthodox education system with the introduction of core curriculum studies.”

No different from meretz, maybe even worse. May G-d save us from this rashah.

9/18/2019 2:52 PM  
Blogger vincent said...

Just a little copy paste as assistance;
Rabbi Glazerson on election.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTzcGFdFW5A

9/18/2019 3:57 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

we haven’t done all we could. there needs to be a mass provocation to do teshuva. then we might have done all we could.
does Rivlin only have to choose between B&W and Likud, or can he ask, say, someone like Ayelet Shaked to form a govt? Since we read that likudniks won’t leave Bibi. The only way to break that is with the indictment! IY”H
This headline made me laugh: PA cabinet head: Bibi and Benny is like Pepsi and Coke :-)

9/18/2019 4:13 PM  
Anonymous Haim said...

Dov, are you saying that Yehonatan Pollard is Mashiach ben David? I thought the whole point of Hashem allowing the Mashiach ben David to be revealed at a certain point in history is that it is contingent on keeping the identity of the Mashiach a secret from the world for the purpose of: 1. So the evil forces(Satan)won't try to impede or destroy the Mashiach if it is known who he is before he is revealed and
2. It could be quite possible - just like with Samuel/Shmuel, who didn't know which son of Yishai was to be annointed, until Hashem told Shmuel it was to be David, that it may play out the same way this time around.
3. Because we as a Jewish people, who have given up the right - because we have not done proper Teshuvah in Hashem's eyes - for an Acheishana/Hasty redemption to unfold, we are now in Beitah/"in it's time" mode and we don't really deserve to be redeemed solely based on our merits let alone deserve to know who the identity of the Mashiach is. It makes sense to me.

There was also a spelling error in this article - it should be "No place in Eretz Yisrael to settle", not "No place in Eretz Yisrael to settler". Just thought you should know that.

9/18/2019 6:13 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

No. I do not believe Pollard is Mashiach ben David. At the Covenant Between the Parts we are told in the Torah that at end of our long night of exile, BOTH the Tor (turtle-dove or MB Yosef) and the Ben Yonah (white dove or MB David) are released from their captivity simultaneously. So until the moment of their freedom both Mashiachs are being held under house arrest. Mashiach ben Ephraim (Pollard) is being kept in captivity in Brooklyn, NY with an ankle bracelet telling authorities that he is home in Brooklyn by 7pm seven days per week, and there is another in Eretz Yisrael being held under house arrest by an identical ankle bracelet placed on his ankle by Shabak, making sure that he does not travel to Yerushalayim nor to any place in Judea and Samaria. The moment that one is given freedom, it is likely so will the other be free.

9/18/2019 7:08 PM  
Anonymous Haim said...


But we also don't know if Meir Ettinger is the Mashiach ben David because of the previous points I made about how the identity of Mashiach ben David must be kept a secret until the very end.

9/18/2019 7:21 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Genesis 15
ט  וַיֹּאמֶר אֵלָיו, קְחָה לִי עֶגְלָה מְשֻׁלֶּשֶׁת, וְעֵז מְשֻׁלֶּשֶׁת, וְאַיִל מְשֻׁלָּשׁ; וְתֹר, וְגוֹזָל.9 And He said unto him: 'Take Me a heifer of three years old, and a she-goat of three years old, and a ram of three years old, and a turtle-dove, and a young pigeon (or dove).'י  וַיִּקַּח-לוֹ אֶת-כָּל-אֵלֶּה, וַיְבַתֵּר אֹתָם בַּתָּוֶךְ, וַיִּתֵּן אִישׁ-בִּתְרוֹ, לִקְרַאת רֵעֵהוּ; וְאֶת-הַצִּפֹּר, לֹא בָתָר.10 And he took him all these, and divided them in the midst, and laid each half over against the other; but the birds divided he not.

9/18/2019 7:24 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Correct, Haim, we do not know for sure. It is why I avoid mentioning his name although I believe that the odds of him being Mashiach are near 50%. Until Mashiach ben David is actually revealed by Eliyahu HaNavi, we cannot be more than 50% sure. So I impose that self-doubt about who he is on myself.

9/18/2019 7:33 PM  
Anonymous Haim said...

Just curious to know - was Eliyahu HaNavi a reincarnation of Samuel/Shmuel, the Samuel who annointed David to be the future King?

9/18/2019 7:38 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I will mention this. David slew Goliath when he was 28 years old. And there are other things associated with the 4 times Yirmiyahu haNavi spells Yaakov's name with a Vav which reveal deep secrets about the coming of Mashiach in the last 30 years before he arrives. These deep secrets are included in Tanakh because Eliyahu was told that even though he would herald the coming of Ben David, the last 30 years of The Mashiach ben Yosef period of Jewish history, he would not herald, but the Tanakh in 5 separate places where Yaakov's name is spelled with a Vav would herald those last 30 years. 4 places in Yirmiyahu and one place in the Torah in the tochachah in Leviticus. 5 x Vav (6) = those final 30 years which we are in already of course.

9/18/2019 7:44 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

There lies the parallel between Shmuel and Eliyahu. One heralded David. The other would herald Mashiach ben David. The parallism ends there for a reason. The one who would supposed to destroy Amaleq, Shaul was ALSO annointed by Shmuel HaNavi, but the counterpoint to Shaul, Bibi Netanyahu whose soul is the sparks of Shaul's soul that he did not purify in his lifetime, was simply elected. Well some say his career was heralded by the Lubavicher Rebbe, but his career was not heralded by Eliyahu. He is now the longest serving PM in Israel's history. The Erev Rav wants him disgraced and in prison for daring to serve more yrs as PM than David Ben Gurion! In their minds That cannot be tolerated!

So why did Eliyahu HaNavi NOT herald his long tenure? It is because Eliyahu was depressed about the spiritual condition of Klal Yisrael after his triumph on Mt. Carmel against the 400 priests of Baal Peor and the 450 priestesses of Ashtaroth. He thought he had initiated a grand and glorious time of Baalei Teshuvah, but when Jezebel said that she would kill him the next day, he concluded that instead all of those Baalei teshuvah were really ingrates. So he traveled back to Har Sinai to return the Torah to Heaven! 

Continued......

9/18/2019 8:10 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Sorry the other way around: 450 priests of Baal Peor and 400 priestesses (and priests) of Ashtaroth gathered to Mt. Carmel for the competition.

9/18/2019 8:29 PM  
Anonymous Haim said...

Here is why I doubt it is possibly the person - that you are almost 50% sure of being that person - that is currently being held by the Shabak in house detention. Rambam, the almost exclusive go-to source for Mashiach ben David, says this in his famous correspondence with the Jews of Yemen, in the Iggeret Teiman:

The Messianic King will be an unknown - a nobody. Nothing will be known about his background or family. As the Rambam writes: "Know that you will not know of his arising before it happens, such that one could say about him that he is so-and-so's son from such-and-such a family. Rather, a man will arise who will be unknown before he is revealed." Also I've read it from Rambam and other Torah sources that he will be a Ba'alei Teshuvah. This person of interest is not a Ba'alei Teshuvah. Also Rabbi Mendel elucidates and expands on this Torah concept in some of the Torah lectures I've seen on video, that he explains that this person will have been put down, made fun of, pushed away and rejected for most of his life and also someone who has gone through the most incredible suffering and tests that most people would not be able to withstand. He also mentions that it won't be a great Rabbi or tzaddik or someone that is known from an illustrious Torah family. This person who is being held in house detention by the Shabak is a person who is well known in Israel and almost certainly the greater Jewish world. It is well known that he is the grandson of Meir Kahane - an illustrious, very well known politically active and Torah learned family. So he is not an unknown or a nobody. From what I understand, he has had a pretty decent life, with lots of support and love around him, with the exception of the last few years of his life involving the Duma case.
It is also well known that he is a radical member and leader of Israel’s “hilltop youth,” young people from religiously observant families who move to settlement outposts, resist soldiers’ attempts to evacuate them, and intermittently carry out “price tag” hate crime attacks on Palestinian, Christian and Israeli targets. I would hardly think - with such a rebellious, trouble-maker background - that he would be the prime candidate to represent the Jewish people as our Mashaich. I am not of the mindset that he is possibly the "One." Waiting for anyone's reply on this.

9/18/2019 9:26 PM  
Anonymous Haim said...

The Rabbi Mendel I am referring to is Rabbi Mendel Kessin. Sorry I didn't mention his full name the first time around.

9/18/2019 9:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My O my, I think this is the first time Dov aced this. Two elections and both stink. Will this lead to the third try and will that finally end with Moshiach??

9/18/2019 11:43 PM  
Anonymous Lea said...

I fget who i asked if Meir E was the Moshiach and someone close to him said that he says it is his Rebbe who is Rav Y Ginzburg.

9/18/2019 11:49 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Haim: So you are waiting for a Lamed Vavnick, a hidden Tzaddik? Let me think about that. But in the Mishneh Torah, of Kings and Their Wars, are you saying that the Rambam says Mashiach will be a Nobody?

Also, I do not believe the hearsay about Meir Ettinger that he has burned down churches and supported price tag revenge. But I am exhausted. Good night.

9/19/2019 1:38 AM  
Blogger Gavriela Dvorah said...

Lashon hara. Mamash lashon hara!

9/19/2019 6:53 AM  
Blogger Gavriela Dvorah said...

He certainly has not. How quick we are to believe the lies of the erev rav. They kept him in solitary confinement. When they would bring him before the shofet, they didn't ask about alleged crimes, they asked if he had changed his thinking. What thinking was that? He rejected the authority of the court, of the existence of medinat israel and waits for the establishment of the Kingdom of Moshiach. So if this is terrorist ideology, then they better come and lock me up too. Along with all the hundreds of thousands of us who reject the legitimacy of this erev rav medinat israel and await the establishment of the Kingdom of Moshiach, may it be soon.

9/19/2019 7:00 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Reb Dov, reading that Bibi wants to create a “bloc” and try for the PMinisterial position AGAIN, and if he succeeds, would this then put him squarely in the “prophecy” you spoke of above, him joining the others whose life ended ….?

9/19/2019 9:33 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

MK Ahmed Tibi: ""This man continues to incite since yesterday, even after the slap in the face he received from the public ….”

sometimes comes forth truth from our enemies

9/19/2019 9:36 AM  
Anonymous Hal said...

Is the tractate not Sanhedrin 98a concerning the gates (instead of 78a)?

9/19/2019 12:08 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Hal: I will check it out to let you know. For the next 2 days, I will be preparing for a Qiddush. Continue to post comments even if I cannot respond until later.

9/19/2019 1:56 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Hal: U were correct! I had copied this Sanhedrin text from several sites. Next time I check citations out for myself. Sorry for the error. Sanhedrin 98a is correct. I should have known that because all the other speculations about Mashiach in Sanhedrin are in and around folio 98. 

9/19/2019 3:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Talk about crashing the car.

Those who thought that Oslo 93 was bad is about to learn what bad really means. All those Jews who sat out this election will learn a powerful lesson. As bad a Bibi was it will be kids play compared to Ganz, Lapid and Leberman.

Even if Bibi is promised to be given the PM position in two years, most likely B&W will pull out and demand new election. This is what Labor did to Shamir.

These people have a ability to bring Israel to her knees, or worse. These people are capable of giving all kinds of gifts for meaningless photo shoots.

Those Jews in Yehuda and Shomron and around gaza should be ashamed of themselves.

9/20/2019 4:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quote from Anon 9/20 4:45am "All those Jews who sat out this election will learn a powerful lesson."

Me: and what powerful lesson have *you* learned? If you are Jewish, why do you speak as though you are not part of "those"? Is Hashem divided? Is Israel divided? No.

Quote: "This is what Labor did to Shamir."

Me: I thought we believed that all that is *Is Hashem*, so He did it all for us, to get us to this exact place.

Quote: "These people have a ability to bring Israel to her knees, or worse."

Me: I may be mistaken, forgive me if my perspective is in error, but isn't that the whole idea of teshuva and guela, to get one in the position of returning to right standing with Hashem? Knees sound good. And what is the worse you speak of? Prostration maybe? That might be even better, not worse. Again, all that is, is Hashem, He does it all for us.

Quote: "Those Jews in Yehuda and Shomron and around gaza should be ashamed of themselves"

Me: Again, the choice of words to express your thoughts speak volumes, "those Jews" and "these people", etc. Is the shame only "theirs"? Are they *alone* responsible? So, if they (even one person) realize their error, and repent, and Hashem brings the redemption immediatley on their behalf, is the reward theirs *alone* as well? Would you see yourself as part of "those Jews" then?? Maybe they should say they never knew you. Is it possible to judge them favorably as having a part in bringing the redemption *for all*? Surely, what we may think as not good, Hashem means for good. Even your choice of words to express your heart has given me much to think upon. I am grateful to Hashem and you.

Thank you Hashem for Anonymous 4:45am post. If I offended you or anyone, I beg your forgiveness for my ignorance. At this point, I may not merit understanding.

9/21/2019 4:01 AM  
Blogger efraim yochanan ben Avraham said...

. mr Anon. the bad comes because of the apostasy , not because of the elections results . ........Ubacharta bachaim.....doesn't mean to vote "right wing" (or to support a leader who impose an homosexual as justice minister upon the People of Israel) . Unfortunately HE CHOOSE his own downfall ....he does the wrong choices... May we merit for a complete teshuvah each one and as a nation.....veshavta AD Hashem Elokecha.....

9/23/2019 11:02 AM  
Blogger Rachel said...

efraim yochanan ben Avraham, You are 100% correct. We were warned. This past Shabbos we read the tochacha, the curses, a warning of what would come if we didn't keep the Torah. Why are people still so clueless as to why bad things happen? May Moshiach come and may all the eyes be opened in time to do teshuva before all our freedom of choice is removed. This will take a miracle. My daughter's 4th yahrzeit was yesterday and I, for one, cannot wait a moment longer.

9/23/2019 3:50 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

This looks like another stalemate. I think Israel needs outside help.
Maybe someone will rise to the occasion?
Maybe Ma———?

9/23/2019 6:24 PM  
Blogger Leah said...

I'm just keepin on keepin on and in awe of what's going on. Big changes coming and praying it (like every day) paved the way for Moshiach.

9/24/2019 3:14 AM  
Blogger Ginno Ricci said...

I just found out this prediction by rav Kaduri. Better late than never. Many things have been said in the name of Rabbi Kaduri, some are true, some are not, so I don't mind if someone refuses to believe it.

9/24/2019 9:10 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

This is worrisome. A nurse, mind you, a nurse, has threatened to murder Netanyahu. If the article is correct, this could presage something awful, as in the prophecy that Reb Dov wrote about, IF Netanyahu is first in a rotation coalition. If so, it would leave Gantz in control, I think. I don’t know what the political law is pertain8ng to such a situation. Or as I wrote earlier that this coalition won’t come about either.
arutzsheva

9/24/2019 10:31 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Oh My G-d! We are living through Zecharia 12 in slow motion!

Olmert (Armilus) has not retired.
ARMILUS IS PULLING BENNY GANTZ'S PUPPET STRINGS!

G-d forbid if he is also scheming on an assassination!

9/24/2019 11:43 PM  
Blogger Rachel said...

Dov can you please translate the above link for the Hebrew impaired?

9/25/2019 12:02 AM  
Blogger LondonMale said...

The Brexit debacle has taken another turn with the UK's Supreme Court ruling that the Prime Minister Boris Johnson's prorogation (temporary closing down) of Parliament was illegal.
So it will re open later today.
This is unprecedented, the judiciary getting involved in politics in this way.
So the chaos continues.
But....as worrying as resultant civil disorder could be...I am keeping a very close eye on Iran and Saudi Arabia. ...their hostilities really have a Geula feel.
And an eye on Trump, who now faces an impeachment investigation.
L'Shana Tova!

9/25/2019 1:53 AM  
Blogger Jesterhead45 said...

LondonMale

Seems Israel is not the only one having to deal with subversive Supreme Courts and Judiciary, given it is also happening in the UK, US, etc in order to overturn people's votes at the behest of entrenched establishments.

9/25/2019 1:25 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

LondonMale and Jesterhead45: This is all the workings of the deep state, who will stop at NOTHING to prevent their demise. All this about a ‘whistleblower’ and ‘impeachment’ is also to stop TRUMP and the Patriots from pulling the rug out from under the evil DS and their evil plans for everyone on earth. And yes the Israeli supremes are part of the evil plan (not just the erev rav). Things will get even messier as it gets closer to shutting down (bringing to military tribunal and executing) these evil people.

Reb Dov, please repeat the likelihood of Netanyahu being the reincarnation of ___________ who left the world in a not so good way.

9/25/2019 3:45 PM  
Blogger vincent said...

Londonmale, we have exact same problem at this side of North Sea right now ! Highest constitutional body called 'Raad van State' meaning just about 'Council of State' just said that certain folks that went to Syria to fight, should get their passports back. The people don't like it, and even politicians say so. Also due to problems with (presumably) too much nitrogen in the enviroment, everything is in shut down mode in Netherlands right now, believe it or not. All the planned infrastructual works and even the building of houses is postponed till futher notice, or till climate change freezes over. Whatever.
My best bet is: Weren't the B'nai Elokim also known to be some kind of judges over the common men? Is this their last stands?

9/25/2019 3:45 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Rachel: Headline on the Srugim article (Srugim refers to knitted kipot of Religious Zionists.)

According to a news report from Channel 13, the Chairman of Kachol veLavan Benny Gantz is keeping close contact with the previous Prime Minister Ehud Olmert. We need to remember that the Chairman of the Negotiating Team for Kachol veLavan (Blue and White Party) was Ehud Olmert's Chief of Staff.

9/25/2019 6:15 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

I understand Lieberman. He is a wicked man who wants to turn Israel into a country of goim to serve his Russian electorate, therefore his main concern is to form a goverment without haredim. But what is gantz's problem? What kind of game is he playing? why he simply can't take his 13 knesset members of the Israel Resilience party he created and form a goverment of rotating prime ministers with Netanyahu? He alone cant do anything, and he knows it. Does he want a third election or what? Even if Bibi wanted, he couldnt make a government with Lieberman without haredim, nor viceversa. No leftist party is willing to compromise with Likud and Lapid keeps screaming like a child that he wants Bibi out. So what are they waiting for? The only solution to form a government is to reach a compromise between Bibi and Gantz. It's not rocket science. There's no other choice. Why these politicians don't grow up?

9/26/2019 3:12 PM  
Blogger Unknown said...

Now i'm starting to appreciate the presidential system. If Israel would elect Prime Minister like people elect President in Argentina, Bibi and Gantz would go to a two-round system (called ballotage) and we would have a government by now, probably under Netanyahu (by a small margin). People would be forced to elect one of the two candidates, since politicians are useless to make compromise and form a coalition on their own, apparently. The irony is that those people calling to remove Netanyahu at all cost don't understand that he will remain as provisional Prime Minister indefinetly until a new government is formed, since there is no term limit in a parliamentary system. We can go to ten elections and the current stalemate will remain, with Bibi as PM.

9/26/2019 3:40 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Meir Ettinger on Teshuva

9/27/2019 10:06 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Neshama: Bibi is the reincarnation of the impure Netzitzot of King Shaul who failed to perfect a number of midot and to finish a number of tasks in his lifetime. For one, he was supposed to obliterate Amaleq and did not by allowing Agag to remain alive with the female Amaleqites who had shapeshifted into bleating sheep. Since all of Shaul's male descendents were wiped out or in the case of Mephiboshet were childless, the task to destroy Amaleq in the world was passed on to Shaul's younger brother Geira who passed it on to Shimi who had cursed David a great curse while running away from AvShalom, David's son. So all the descendents of Shimi ben Geira, and Bibi is one of them according to Zech 12, have a koach to be Mashiach ben Yosef to destroy Amaleq in the world. Mordechai and Esther were two of those descendents who engaged in the obliteration of Amaleq in the Persian Empire. Bibi less successfully is another such descendent of Shimi.

9/27/2019 10:43 AM  
Blogger David m said...

Hi Dov,

I'm disappointed that you did not post my recent post on what you wrote about 911.

I know we disagree but I was respectful and simply stated my opinion which is shared by millions (around 20%), including thousands of engineers and scientists.

I believe you should post opinions that are not yours, even if they are drastically different.

Shavua tov and chatima tova!!

9/29/2019 5:23 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Sorry, David M. Your comment from a week ago had gone into Spam. I rescued it and a couple of others from Spam.

לשנה טובה ותיכתבו ותחתמו בספר החיים הטובים
! והשלום

9/29/2019 3:41 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Global Stocks Tumble, Dow Drops 490 Points, S&P and NASDAQ Plunge Over Recession Fears
GET READY FOR A FINANCIAL TURNOVER
AND
MK Gideon Sa'ar (Likud), considered Prime Minister Netanyahu's prominent political rival within the Likud movement, hinted on Thursday in a tweet that he may compete with Netanyahu for the party leadership - In response to reports that Netanyahu is considering holding a snap primary for the Likud leadership.
Sa'ar tweeted "I'm ready."
LOOKS LIKE RABBI KESSIN MIGHT HAVE CALLED THIS ONE.

10/03/2019 5:48 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Do not count Rav Kessin's Shlit"a eggs before they hatch.

10/03/2019 7:06 PM  
Blogger Jesterhead45 said...

Thoughts Dov?

Crack in the anti-Iran front: US persuades Saudis to engage Tehran in regional deals
https://www.israpundit.org/crack-in-the-anti-iran-front-us-persuades-saudis-to-engage-tehran-in-regional-deals/

Trump gives green light to Turkey to takeover northern Syria, displace U.S. partners
https://www.israpundit.org/trump-gives-green-light-to-turkey-to-takeover-northern-syria-displace-u-s-partners/#more-63647198

10/07/2019 1:45 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

This will go the full 7 years after the majority of Mankind fell below Mem Tet Shaarei Tumah in 5776. The longest the world can survive being out of spiritual balance between Good and Evil is 7 years. Where do we see this? When we are told in Parshat Shlach Lecha (Numbers 13) that

כב  וַיַּעֲלוּ בַנֶּגֶב, וַיָּבֹא עַד-חֶבְרוֹן, וְשָׁם אֲחִימַן שֵׁשַׁי וְתַלְמַי, יְלִידֵי הָעֲנָק; וְחֶבְרוֹן, שֶׁבַע שָׁנִים נִבְנְתָה, לִפְנֵי, צֹעַן מִצְרָיִם.22 And they went up into the South, and came unto Hebron; and Ahiman, Sheshai, and Talmai, the children of Anak, were there.--Now Hebron was built seven years before Tzoan in Egypt.--

Now really why does the text go off on a tangent, telling us that Chevron was built 7 years before Tzoan in Mitzraim? Is it necessary for telling us what the Spies saw there, which is the central theme of the Story in the Text. We are at this juncture being told one of the secrets of the Final Redemption. You see, Chevron will be the first place in Eretz Yisrael to reach +50 at the onset of building the Messianic Kingdom while Tzoan (Tanis) was the Ancient Capital of the Old Kingdom in Ancient Egypt where Klal Yisrael was influenced to fall to Mem Tet Shaarei Tumah and where Moshe and Aharon performed the 10 Plagues. So we are told that the Qedushah of Chevron preceded the Tumah of Ancient Mitzraim by 7 years. Here the world was out of balance on the side of Qedushah, and it needed to be counter-balanced by Tumah within 7 years. This was also possible in our day when the 7th year of Gog ben Gog Bush preceded 5775 and 5776 by exactly seven years (5768 and 5769). Because of the callous behavior of some dati Jews who joined Sharon's Disengagement govt for 290 million shekel, we did not deserve for the final year of GoguMagog in the last year of Gog's Presidency to precede the Fall of Mankind to -49 and -50 7 years later. We chose to be dragged kicking and screaming into the Redemption, not 7 yrs BEFORE Mankind went from -49 to -50 but 7 yrs AFTER Mankind went from -49 to -50. Trump by delaying the War against Persia until AFTER 5780 is virtually guarranteeing a bloody hell when this War is fought no later than in 5782. Now I am sure you wanted to hear Achishena pleasantries for Mankind, but that ship has sailed. The world will be out of balance on the negative side of the ledger for almost 7 years. So the kick back into spiritual balance will be a real doozy.

10/07/2019 4:39 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Well!
Wishing you and your family a Gmar Chatima Tova, a pleasant and healthy year.
Like you wrote I believe this year will be very challenging to all our preconceived understandings.

10/08/2019 8:56 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Well, 5780 is off to a tumultuous start.

Let’s see if this happens. I think Trump’s next move to negate and void the *Sykes Pico (and any agreements in connection with this) “arrangement” that the then “powers that be” enacted to arbitrarily divide the “area” into separate “countries/states” in order to control the oil and whatever else they wanted. The Arab nations are divided already by “tribes” and “allegiances” and not the way it was divided. They have been warring ever since, and that was the reason for ISIS being formed, in order to break down the artificial boundaries imposed on them.

Since Britain is a part of this arrangement, perhaps Trump and Boris have already discussed this; and in addition to the world economic situation, they have a working arrangement and there may be support from Boris (once he declares freedom from the DS bankers) in order to do this.

I know it looks bad for the Kurds, but Trump is right about being mired in the ME and Arab way of life. What he really plans for Turkey, is yet to be seen. I think it might end up getting sanctioned into obedience. And should this *all take hold we may yet see the Kurds having a “state” of their own.

This is just my analysis and very open to comments - please.

10/10/2019 9:21 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Is anyone watching what is playing out over these Yom Tov days?

Hoshana Rabba . . . Finality of the ME Conundrum

10/15/2019 11:18 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I do not know if this will happen by THIS Hoshana Rabbah, but this is where this chaos is headed: The Kurds are the descendents of Madai. According to the Gaon, Dubiel, Bear Power from Daniel 7, (Pras, Madai, and the Russians will capture Istanbul). So the Kurds in order to survive will now ally with Iran. The Papa Bear is Russia, and the Momma bear is Persia, and the Kurds are the Baby bear. The Final Alliance of the Three Bears


10/15/2019 7:57 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I am beginning to believe strongly that Mashiach ben David will rise this year BEFORE any third election can take place as a result of there being no govt after two inconclusive elections. Yet, the Big War will likely be held off until after the 2020 American Presidential elections. This would mean a far more catastrophic war for Mankind when it takes place between Nov 2020 and the Fall of 2022. Those Jews who will therefore have come on Aliyah before the cataclysmic war and its associated unparalleled economic collapse, will have increased their odds of surviving this final chaotic imbroglio by seeking shelter under a Messianic govt before the SHTF. S is for slop.

10/15/2019 8:45 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

So right Reb Dov. We are in for some earth rattling years ahead. One prophecy is that the Arab nations will in the end turn against Israel, after frustration. Is that in your scenario?

Also, I learned recently that the Kurds will come under Syria’s “protection” with an area just for them.

How do you see Russia claiming them? Russia has allowed the US and Israel to function in Syria without interference (thanks to BB).

If Russia attacks Turkey, that would be a real messy war, but Turkey would deserve it. And Trump by his recent moves regarding Erdogan is laying the groundwork for Turkeys humbling. Turkey was only supposed to clean out the remaining ISIS in No Syria and among the Kurds, but Erdogan may or may not have done that. Yes, the Kurds had a DS faction, and this was also to be wiped out. All negotiated during the Trump-Erdogan meeting. The DS had a field day mangling the news and headlines, esp in Israel. I think this was a set up on Erdogan in order to begin restraints against Erdogan.


10/16/2019 9:15 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Filling the void, Russia seeks to cement its role as power broker in Syria
Desperate for a new protector, the Kurds struck a deal with Russia-backed Assad, whose forces have now begun moving into Kurdish-administered areas to shield them against Turkey timesofisrael

10/16/2019 9:29 AM  

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