Friday, February 15, 2013

The First Meteorite Shower of the 5773 Season

The first meteorite shower of the 5773 Spring Season has been confirmed!!

I am sorry to report that 102 were injured in the Ural Mountains last night, and I won't guess what this portends for future meteorite showers later on this Spring.

Also The Asteroid 2012 DA14 will be making its closest pass by to earth of a large rock ever in observation history.  It will be passing about 17,100 miles over Sumatra Island, Indonesia at 9:24pm local time here in EY.  It can be seen with a good pair of binoculars in the Southeastern sky, but you better be really quick.  It will be traveling at about 17,500 miles per hour.  It is a 45 to 50 meter long rock about half the size of a Canadian football field.  And it could be the metaphorical stone in Sefer Daniel 2 which hits the two feet made of Iron (Edom) and clay (Yishmael).  There were two halves to the Roman Empire in ancient times.  One was in Rome and the other was in Constantinople.  At the end of days, in Istanbul we have a world leader who is really a Xtian but pretends to be a devout Muslim named Erdogan.  You all know that Istanbul is Constantinople.  And the Western leg has moved to Rome, Maryland now known as Washington D.C.  And there we have a leader who is really a Muslim but is pretending to be a Xtian, courtesy of his pastor, Jeremiah Wright.  And where was he really a Muslim during his boyhood days????  Well, in Jakarta, INDONESIA!!  You figure it out.

Oh by the way, the vision interpreted by Daniel is that the stone is hewn but not by human hands.  The Gematriah of Yad is 14.  And DA stands for YKVK Elokim.  The Dalet stands for the Tetragrammaton, and the Aleph is Elokim.  So DA14 stands for the Hand of HaShem Elokim.  Now with the first meteorite shower of the Spring season, we shall see what comes next.

UPDATE:  Here is my comment from Friday afternoon on this post:

Hold the presses!! Why did this first meteorite shower hit the Ural Mts?? because the Urals separate the European or Meshech portion of Russia from the Western Siberian or Tubal section of Russia, to kick off the Gog UMagog judgement on the nations!! Because in the first pasuk of Yechezkel 38 it says Gog from the Land of Magog Prince of Russia or Chief Prince of Meshech and Tuval.

Commenting on Yeranen Ya'akov's blog is my explanation about how we know for sure that West of the Urals Russia is Meshech and East of the Urals in Western Siberia is Tuval:

Tobolsk is a provincial capital in southwestern Siberia. It is at the confluence of the Tobol and Irtysh Rivers. The Tobol or Tubal River flows from northern Kazakhstan into Southwestern Siberia. The city of Tobolsk is located surrounded by millions of square miles of frozen marshland most of the year. Further north, especially north of where the Irtysh/Tobol Rivers empties into the Ob River, Western Siberia becomes a frozen tundra and is not very habitable. So the ancient Tuvalites likely settled along what is now the Tobol River stretching from Northern Kazakhstan in the Southern Ural Range toward Tyumen-Oblast Province in southwestern Siberia. The Ural town of Chelyabinsk (where a meteorite damaged a synagogue) mentioned in the previous post (on Ya'ak's blog) is in the neighboring province to the west of the Tobol River.

Usually the names of rivers are a good indication of where an ancient civilization settled because the names of the rivers precede the names of towns that were built along their banks. This includes the Moscow River whose name preceded the founding of the city of Moscow. The shoresh of MoSKow or Moskva is Meshekh. So the Urals lie precisely between Meshekh and Tuval and separate European Russia from Western Siberia. Magog is further east in Eastern Siberia and Mongolia and is the source of the ancient Mongols. Two American Indian tribes migrated from ancient Mongolia (Magog) into the Southwestern US, the Apache and the Navajo. I have written about this previously on my blog. During the Middle Ages the Arab traders called the Great Wall of China: Al Magog because the Wall was built to keep out the Mongols. By the time Marco Polo finally arrived, the Wall had failed to keep out the Mongols. So Russia is a combination of three ancient descendants of Yafeth: Meshech, Tuval, and further to the east, Magog.

I should point out a general concept.  All the Bnai Yafeth went in a northerly direction from the Tower of Bavel over time just like all the Bnai Cham in general went in a southerly direction over time.  The Bnai Shem stayed at about the same latitude over time.  So most of the Bnai Yafeth went into Europe, but Meshech and Tuval went north and northeast respectively while Magog went to the northeast corner of the Asian continent and also had access to crossing into North America over the Bering Strait.

Finally, we are nearing the end of month number 7 of the nine months.  Month number 8 from Tisha B'Av 5772 will begin on the 11th of Adar, the Fast of Esther, this coming Thursday.


Anonymous Shiloh said...

Looks like you will be a busy blogger this secular year of 2013. The news in the last few weeks sure points to something big. Shabbat Shalom

2/15/2013 2:05 PM  
Blogger Daniela said...

Welcome back Sikhote-Alin beauty, I hope the new fall drives prices down. We may argue in 1947 it was, too, an auspicious time for Moshiach, yet we are still in galut. Shabbat Shalom.

2/15/2013 3:08 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Hold the presses!! Why did this first meteorite shower hit the Ural Mts?? because the Urals separate the European or Meshech portion of Russia from the Western Siberian or Tubal section of Russia, to kick off the Gog UMagog judgement on the nations!! Because in the first pasuk of Yechezkel 38 it says Gog from the Land of Magog Prince of Russia or Chief Prince of Meshech and Tuval.

2/15/2013 3:10 PM  
Blogger Noise Blockers and Other Remedies said...

Mah Tovu Ohaleicha Yaakov.

Todah for very enlightening discussing on this event. Over 900 have been reported injured as this is written. The skies above Israel have unusual patterns. Shabbat Shalom

2/15/2013 3:54 PM  
Blogger Moriah said...

The latest number of injured is 900.

2/15/2013 3:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

shabbat shalom dov. thank you so much for this news. i was wondering if you would write on it. i saw it on cnn channel and they said more than 500 hurt and a few critically. and in 1908 or something it hit again in russia.
according to your time, it should pass sumatra around wrote 9.24pm so plus 6 hours, its around 3.24am where i live. by steam boat we can reach sumatra by one hour or so. all i can think off is ain od milvado. theresa

2/15/2013 4:37 PM  
Blogger ariela said...

Very impressed by the Name of the area this Meteor passed and exploded. Ural Mts, any thoughts Rabbi? I do notice the very close sound it makes to our Archangel. Just wondering?

2/15/2013 9:23 PM  
Blogger Issachar and Yosef Reuvan said...

Preview of Comming Attractions for Rome or Rome, Maryland D.C? This meteor strike looked exactly how it is described in Zohar HaKodesh Vayera 119a "fire hail and meteoric stones" I watched the video of the meteor it looked like a giant hail stone and then turned to fire and exploded!

2/15/2013 10:34 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Dov, thank you. There are some of us who really appreciate your insights. My first thought when I saw the video was that it was the beginning of a series of makkos ... Mitzrayim anyone! Now it seems there were three. Wow. The world is full of blind scoffers, and there are very few who truly look for signs of the Geula.

BTW, about Tobolsk/Tuval, my mother's birth cert said Tuball, which should have been Tubolsky, and family when they came to America all became "Tobey". A relative was Barney Tobey, the famous New Yorker mag artist in the early 20th C. Further, there a Jewish history documentor who explains Meshek and Tuval differently. He has all sorts of maps. A very interesting site; however I don't have the link on my iPad and will send it later.

PS why is there a trashcan by my posts on your blog?

2/17/2013 12:04 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

FYI here are the links: Imninalu AND Peoples of the North AND Identity of Gog and Magog. I am drawn to two differing perspectives on the dispersion, yours and this above. A fascinating read nevertheless. Kol HaKavod Dov.

2/17/2013 9:19 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Meteor showers reported over San Francisco and Cuba....

2/17/2013 5:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At what point do the Jews do the great historic flip and we, especially in E"Y, stop being the poor hated scum in the eyes of the goyim and get to live a good life where we are able to sit and learn rather than struggle at unskilled jobs with long commute at Israeli minimum wage? (~$20/day)
When will the cut be for gerim being accepted?

2/17/2013 6:04 PM  
Blogger Moriah said...

With all due respect to you Neshama... the source you quote is a Christian source. When I read the following below, the site lost all legitimacy to me.

"The same happens in Yehezqel 28:1-19, where we find an exaltation of the king of Tyre (a wealthy city but certainly not an empire)" Tyre was like America is today. It was a nation. It was a humongous commercial hub where people immigrated to to make a better living doing jobs the people of Tyre no longer did.. When Tyre fell it effected not just the people of Tyre but all surrounding nations. It was an economic tragedy. If Tyre was just a wealthy city why was there so much attention paid to it in Tanach?

"in order to represent Satan, the king of all wicked forces of the universe." Jews do not believe there is one evil force in the world called Satan.

"Another example can be quoted from the Gospels, where the expression "The queen of the South... she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Shlomoh" (Luke 11:31): Needless to say, Jews do not quote the 'Gospels'

2/17/2013 6:18 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Sorry, preparing for my son's Simcha.

Over the last 20 years I have seen many, many, Jewish sources about why Meshech and Tuval together are Russia and always appear in End of Days prophesies together for that reason. I don't have time to research them all now. If someone else has the time for the next 3 weeks, it would be helpful. We are right now extremely stressed because of time until Shabbat VaYakhel/ Pekudei. Please by all means contribute necessary sources. Thanks for your patience. When I have a block of time, I will do more research too.

2/17/2013 6:25 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Bo BaYom is either 21st of Adar (birthday was 21st Adar Rishon) or 22nd of Adar dependent upon which one of the five different opinions one might hold by. Some say 13 years and one day is the birthday. Others say it is the next day. Since Torah reading is on Monday, 22nd of Adar, that makes are choice simple since he is already wearing Tefillin.

2/17/2013 6:29 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

One of them is from Rebbe Nachman of Breslov who says paraphrasing: At the end of Gog UMagog, Russia will consist of one tree on top of one hill in the entire vast country of Russia!!

2/17/2013 6:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do Russia and Cuba have in common?

2/17/2013 7:19 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Castro was a favorite patron of the former Soviet Communists. Other than that I have nothing against Cubans per se'. Maybe Cuba historically like all Catholic countries made life intolerable for Jews there.

The San Francisco meteor, also on Friday, is easier to darshan on. It obviously is the spiritual pit of the planet.

2/17/2013 7:31 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

Actually there are conflicting stories about how the Jews of Cuba have been treated. Castro secretly allowed the emigration of many Jews to go to Israel. Emigration was forbidden to Cubans at that time. Castro's paternal grandfather was a Jewish doctor in Turkey and either founded or had a hospital named for him in Istanbul, I can't remember which. The Rova Yehudi in Istanbul has the plaque and story. Some say Castro was favorable to Jews even though he put a public face against Israel. Others say not, so don't know for sure.

2/17/2013 10:48 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Best coverage with video of the meteorite shower in the Urals.

If anyone has one from San Francisco, that would be great.

Keep in mind we have three events within 24 hours of each other. The Ural Mts. meteorite shower, the San Francisco meteor, and the passing of Asteroid DA14. The Cuban meteorite shower was on Wednesday earlier in the week. Happy Adar.

2/17/2013 11:47 PM  
Blogger vincent said...

This XTian site claims there were even more fireballs seen in the world. Even with links to U tube that I do not really trust as genuine though. (?)
But just as a thought; meteors are spotted more often anyway !
Did you know, scientist think the meteor might return since it is in a track around the sun.

2/18/2013 6:12 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Guess what? "A ball of light in the sky resembling a meteor was reported Sunday night by several people in Miami-Dade and Broward counties..

“Looking over the Biscayne Bay from downtown, I saw an object falling from the sky,” said Brad Greenberg, 30, of Miami in a tweet about 6:30 p.m. “At first, the object was faintly glowing and moving fast but not nearly as fast as a shooting star.”
Flashes Over Miami

2/18/2013 7:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re Vincent 2/18/2013:
I understand Holland so I have translated that article from the URL you just posted, (enjoy):

NBC’s Weatherman Jeff Ranieri has confirmed that the tail of a fireball has been noticed by an exterior radar. Pic: From a clip from the fireball above Germany, which, has also been seen above the Netherlands and Belgium.

Yesterday evening [other, besides Russian one] asteroid passed by at only 28000 km from earth. Also been seen in the Netherlands, Belgium, Germany, America, Cuba and Japan.

On Wed evening Feb 12 a few Netherlanders, Belgians, Germans have seen a very clear fireball in the sky. In the Netherlands this show has been recorded in Meppel, Groningen and East- and West Brabant. (1)

Japan, Cuba, America
Afterwards, on Thursday a very clear fireball has been seen above Japan ( as well. The same evening some citizens of Cuban Cienfuegos have seen a fireball that became bigger than the sun and afterwards exploded very loudly (2).

Yesterday evening citizens around San Francisco and along the West Coast saw a fireball that seems to have crashed (4).

An NBC Bay Area journalist said that yesterday he got all day long calls from ppl that were reporting about fireballs. A huge tail on fire has been noticed on radar. NBC weatherman Jeff Ranieri has confirmed that the echo didn’t originate from rain or fog but was probably a meteorite (3).

Russians (military source, rockets, acc to local Russian newspaper) have shot down the meteorite in order to prevent huge destruction. Meteorite had acc to NASA speed of 20km/sec and explosive power of 20 Hiroshima bombs (5).

'Warning from God'
[Some Russian relig guy] warned that it’s a message from Go-d, as has been learned from the Bible, that He uses natural phenomenon to wake up humanity, reminds us how fragile earth and life are (7). Some Russians believed end of the world literally had arrived (8).

The astronomers with all the modern tech they posses didn’t see the arrival of that meteorite. This underlines the fact that earth can on any moment become a great catastrophe if another possible bigger object from space without any advance warning on earth would crash.

[there was also something written about a Russian official who believed it was some america weapon test and also something else about John Kerry ?..]

2/19/2013 8:38 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unless it was one of the nuclear tipped ABM missiles(Moscow area only) and they had the time to authorize nuclear intercept no conventional surface to air or aircraft launched missile would make more than a meter wide dent on a 30m meteor if it was an impact kill vehicle, explosive warhead with proximity fusing would only scrape a few kg of gravel off of the surface.
It might surprise some people that even a nuke tipped SAM might have little effect on an incoming meteor that has entered the atmosphere.
Energy transfer and conversion in a meteorite impact incident is one of those exercises used to teach thermodynamics and unexpected energy transfer vectors to new engineers. The effects of a large meteor impact to the untrained eye is indistinguishable from a large nuclear detonation but without radioactive fallout. The Russia incident was equivalent to a 1/2 megaton bomb in energy though this was spread out along the reentry line.

2/19/2013 3:14 PM  
Anonymous David M said...

I very much enjoy this reading. I was sorry when you stopped writing for a long period of time.

Still, I'm amazed you don't get frustrated after so many wrong predictions.

Despite the very logical arguments, almost all predictions come out wrong.

Just recently, we saw a series of articles on Lapid, his name, his decency, how he will make things happen, etc. In the end, we see that he is not the person you described and he likely won't even be in the picture.

This is one of many examples.

Anyway, it's interesting reading even if it's not reliable for seeing reality.

2/21/2013 12:21 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

You are probably wrong about that David. With Livni and Kadima, Shaul or Bibi has only 57 seats. He cannot bring in Labor because the Communist Party heads of Labor want Finance Ministry portfolios and other economic portfolios effectively destroying Israel's economy. If Bibi tries to give away the store in order to bring in Labor, it seems that at least ten Likud MKs from the Feiglin wing will vote against the government, and they may bolt to Bayit Yehudi making Bayit Yehudi the largest party. So right now, Bibi is stuck at 57 maximum. We all knew that when Lapid and Bayit Yehudi made a pact to go in together, that Bibi would bring in Livni and Kadima. Nothing newsworthy has happened so far to even comment on this. Now we are discovering why Bayit Yehudi made a pact. UTJ is truly an evil party and wants 1000 more years of galut rather than redemption. They have a greater connection to Jews in Brooklyn than they do to Jews in Kiryat Arba. UTJ deserves to be hurt by this if that is what G-d wills. Shas is a different matter, but Aryeh Deri is a leopard who apparently has not changed his spots with his pleading with a Labor honcho for 3 hours begging him to enter Bibi's government. Also BY knew that Shaul would likely turn left after bringing in Lapid in order to please Obamanation. So the two made a pact together, and now it is clear why. We really are not fully aware of the final picture yet. And I am waiting for real news. I will have a post about Livni very soon, maybe this evening.

2/21/2013 5:17 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

very perplexing
I envision much going on in Shomayim, but here on earth it's in fragmentation

2/21/2013 7:26 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I will give you a hint. Remember the first post that I did right after the elections? the one where I mentioned the five soul roots of the Erev Rav mentioned in the Zohar. One of them was Amalekim. There were five left wing parties in the General Elections that got seats: Livni, Labor, Meretz, Kadima, and Chadash.

Livni is assuredly Amalek. She is the most evil and conceited of the five. So this week, 3000 years later, our Shaul made another deal for the continuance of Amalek. So if the Gaza War was the end of his dynasty. Making a deal with Livni is an end to him personally. But even with David it took a few months before Shaul died a violent death on Mt. Gilboa. Shaul will try every trick in the book now to survive, and he will assuredly go mad. But now as in this week's parsha, he has once again made a deal with Amalek by inviting Livni into the coalition. So his days are numbered. I am not sure which other party is from the other soul roots, Anakim, Giborim, Rephaim, and Nephilim, but assuredly Livni is the worst of the bunch.

2/21/2013 7:40 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I should mention that if the election were held today, Yeish Atid would likely get 30 seats, and Bayit Yehudi would get 15 seats. Likud would be lucky to get 22 seats. The country is changing fast even after the elections. Oh and Labor would get 13 seats, losing 2 seats. There are many in Likud looking at all this and asking themselves, "do we really want to lose everything who we are by forming a leftwing government? Can we afford to let Shaul steal our soul as he personally collapses completely??"

Human psychology would dictate that now is the time to form a government cobbled with the Left and perhaps all these changes will go away over the next few years when everyone comes back to their senses. But what Shaul is failing to take into account, by forming a government with three of the five Erev Rav parties, he no longer can be himself either. But his hatred for Bennett is so so great. Now that he has helped to perpetuate the Amalek branch of the Erev Rav, he has completely destroyed himself in the process. And the Malkhut has been torn from the House of Shaul...again just like this week's Haftarah.

2/21/2013 8:01 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The internal war against the Erev Rav and all of its soul roots is the bitterest of the wars that Klal Yisrael has to fight. This maze is filled with twists and turns of events, and what specifically will happen next is too difficult to predict. But rest assured, at the time of the Gaza War, Shaul (Bibi) lost his Dynasty, but he personally could have continued to rule for a long time. If this deal with Livni (Zeresh HaAmalekit or one of the other bleating sheep from Shmuel Aleph 15) holds, his days are very numbered.

2/21/2013 8:43 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

For instance, two events are going to hit at the end of next week like a ton of bricks.

1. The Pope is tired and is retiring for the first time in over 600 years on Thursday, Feb. 28th (18th of Adar)

2. The US will have massive budget sequestration (automatic budget cuts across the board) on all expenditures of the Federal Government on Friday, March 1st (19th of Adar). Unlike with the automatic tax increase on Jan. 1st, the Congress will not be holding any special sessions to avoid this because the House of Reps. wants the budget cuts anyway. So the House of Reps. will not be in panic mode, and The US Senate has not passed a budget in four years! And Obama likes chaos. It usually gives him an excuse to grab more dictatorial power for himself.

2/21/2013 9:16 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

Dov i understand what you are saying about Bibi as Shaul and the Bennett/Lapid strength. But. What if Lapid hadn't been so demanding and uncompromising in his willingness or not to join the coalition and Bennett hadn't played hard to get..refusing the offer of Likud. Normally i am a "principles are priority" person, but Bennett maybe isn't thinking clearly about the fact that if he plays too hard to get, he won't be gotten.

Likud DID offer them some good and important positions from which they could do a lot of good. Yes, for SURE the Justice ministry would have been the most important and it wasn't forthcoming...however Bennett could have demanded that...but now he can't make any difference if he keeps entwining himself with Lapid (whom i like or..did like).

I kind of hold Bennett responsible for losing Judea and Samaria to Livni who e.g., FOR SURE won't adopt the Levy report :(

2/22/2013 12:09 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

There will likely be new elections if there is no deal with Bayit Yehudi. And Likud will now lose everything. They may get so desperate not to have elections which they will now lose in a big way that they will dig a deeper hole for themselves by offering Labor the entire store, just to stay in power.

I agree about going in with the Chareidim first. I commented precisely that on the previous post. Especially the opinion of the Sephardi Gadol HaDor needs to be respected even if he says things which are hurtful and mean sometimes. The problem is UTJ deserves very little respect at all in general, and certain yachidim in Shas like Deri are not to be trusted. But it would have been best to first join with the Chareidim to protect full time Torah learners and to be sensitive to ways to integrate the rest which take into account the special needs of the fervently Orthodox. I agree that this was a big mistake not to start with a conditional alliance with them. There should have been no pact with Lapid at least in round one. The differences between the two sides, Yeish Atid and the Chareidim, are vast. But in the talks between BY and Likud it needed to be made clear that massive changes are needed to bring the parties that have different reasons for perpetuating the galut into a Geulah framework. But in the end the fact that Bibi has given the Amaleki the Justice portfolio will simply cause him to collapse much harder and much more quickly. There is so much more yet to come.

As far as the "negotiations Portfolio" it really does not matter. There will never be a negotiated agreement because the stateless Arabs demand things like a divided Jerusalem and the return of 5 million other stateless Arabs. So they will talk and talk with Livni forever. The Justice portfolio is a far greater sin for them (Livni) to have. And Bibi will surely be punished for that infraction.

2/22/2013 12:32 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The only thing about negotiations with the stateless Arabs that needs to be stipulated is that there be no secret talks. The Arabs say a lot of things in private which upon reaching the light of day, they deny having said it in order to stay alive by avoiding assassinations.

2/22/2013 12:46 AM  
Anonymous mkf said...

I agree. I am not concerned about Livni's "negotiating" portfolio. Nothing will happen there I think. But when I saw that Bibi had offered the Justice Ministry...that's what sickened me.

All things aside however, I am not feeling comfortable that Bennett and Lapid come into the arena dictating the terms. The only way Bibi would have been able to bring them in is to have given in to them entirely. Even though I agree with their positions on the issues as BY terms it, it feels a little like extortion. It feels hafook...upside down.

There are those who say if people (and I was one)had not voted "other" - wanting Bibi as PM but wanting to send him a message - this would not have happened. Likud would have been strong enough to do the right thing, having received the mandate, but with the clear message from the country. In a sense that DID happen, and though Likud barely scraped by, it DID try to put together a nationalist govt., but Bennett rejected it.

However, I see your explanation of the events is completely meritorious. Had Bibi not already lost his mantle, Bennett almost assuredly would not have made such demands as the authority would have been remaining upon Bibi and Bennett's role would have been different.

Maybe when the mantle was switched from Shaul to David, David looked like an upstart to some. :) Maybe I'm just having difficulty completely relinquishing my long term affection for and support of Bibi. You are completely right Dov about when it was that Bibi lost his Dynasty. Looking back, I see I was able to support Bibi and defend him - until he withdrew and did not press forward in battle in Pillar of Smoke, the last war in Gaza. It was at that point that I said, perhaps people have been right about him. It was then that my support for him ended and why I could switch my vote...something that surprised even myself.

Still, it makes my heart sad.

2/22/2013 6:35 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Here is more news before Shabbat:

They realize now that they need Bennett really badly. Likud is disintegrating before their eyes as the public leaves the parties of perpetual Galut for the two parties of Geulah, Bayit Yehudi and Yeish Atid. So they need BY to stave off collapse to prevent new elections from being held again this summer where Likud might cease to exist. What will they offer Bennett to make him happy if they have already given Livni the Justice Dept., I don't know. And I am not sure that Bennett and Livni can sit together in the same government peacefully. One brings in part of the light of Mashiach ben Ephraim while the other represents the darkness of Amalek.

Shabbat Shalom and Purim Sameach!!

There are so many twists and turns going on right now, here, at our borders, and abroad. We don't know what will necessarily happen next. For one, the Battle for Damascus seems to have gotten much more bloody in recent days. A car bombing at the Russian Embassy and Ba'ath Party Headquarters just killed over 50 people. And the war is really raging now in Damascus's suburbs. The one thing that the rebels don't have in order to win is air cover, and fighter jets.

2/22/2013 12:44 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I forgot to make one point that caused my eyes to kind of bug out. All the MKs made speeches in the last two weeks before taking their seats. After Moshe Feiglin made his opening speech last week in the Knesset, the first person to step up to shake his hand as he descended from the podium was Ya'ir Lapid. And then Moshe was hugged by a former police chief who is also in Yeish Atid. It is very clear to me that Lapid is not out to destroy the Torah. He does not believe that it is possible for two Jewish countries to exist here at the same time, one made up of Zionists and the other made up of non-Zionists who might likely insist that 6 million Jews being here at this time is a cosmic accident. And even if they want to continue to insist that this is a cosmic accident, they still have to do more to integrate into the society here, contributing and influencing the greater society at the same time. The present relationship of simply getting money for Yeshivot without reciprocity will bankrupt the country and limit the nation's ability to prosper and will keep the Chareidi community in poverty. Now this is what he believes. I did not vote for him, but he is a positive force in this Geulah process.

2/22/2013 1:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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2/22/2013 4:36 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

I feel that in Shomayim they want the Israel Jews to come together, to tolerate each other more, stop "being against this or that" (to increase their merit) in order to bring on the Geula. It may take an outside event to occur to motivate this. The Haftorah of Parshat Zachor was a play on the PM Tzippi incongruity.

Purim Samayeach!

2/23/2013 7:30 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Yes, Unity is a wonderful concept. One has to have a turtle shell here in order to achieve it. When UTJ once again announced what we already knew that they would raze "isolated" Yishuvim in order to fund their yeshivot, I was about as hurt as Rav Shmuel Eliyahu was hurt by Rav Ovadia Yosef during the campaign. After 8 years and thousands of longer range and more accurate missiles from Gaza, UTJ's leadership has learned absolutely nothing. not one inch toward regret for what they did 8 years ago enabling Sharon. They offer no apologies because they don't regret a thing. When I listen to them talk, I think that I need to do the Time Warp again. At least Rav Ovadia Yosef learned a few lessons from the Al Aksa Intifada, Baruch HaShem, and vowed not to repeat Oslo. But UTJ? I think that they have been transported here from the 19th Century. Sorry to be so blunt. Yet, because it is Purim, I will crawl back into my turtle shell and pretend that the UTJ askanim did not say what they just said. Otherwise, Freilichin Purim to all the Ashkenazi Chareidim whom I am sure don't hold by these Neanderthals running their party.

2/24/2013 12:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remembering back to yeshiva I recall that the ten sons of Haman were real people but I recall also allegorical for future oppressors. Are you familiar with this and who they point to?

2/24/2013 10:55 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

They were the ten Nazis that were hung at Nuremberg on Hoshana Rabba 5707 (1946). The year 5707 is encoded in the names of the ten sons in the Book of Esther. There are 3 letters that are reduced in size in the names of the ten sons in the Megillah in Esther 9, (a Tav, a Shin, and a Zayin). That is the Gematriah 707. There is one letter that is enlarged in the names of the ten sons, a Vav, which stands for the 6th Millennium (the 5000s). So Esther, when she requested of the King an extremely unusual request to hang the dead bodies on the gallows on the 14th Adar of the ten sons whom had been killed the previous day on the 13th Adar, was praying that in the year 5707 a similar ten Amalekim would also be hung on the gallows. And the ten Nazis from Nuremberg were hung in that very year on the Day of Judgement for the nations of the world, Hoshana Rabba, when G-d does not send the Angel of Death but He Himself executes those who deserve to die. There is far more to this story than just this, but I am short on time. I will try to fill in other details later. G-d bless.

2/24/2013 12:08 PM  
Anonymous avf said...

The chareidim follow the Oaths sworn onto the Jewish people by God not to use force to get the land and not to wage war against the nations . This has been the Tradition followed in all the years by all the great leaders . The punishment for not keeping this oath is terrible. In keeping with the Oaths chareidim don't make security decisions which is why by Gaza they followed Sharon who said that it will save lives. In the same light presently the Rabbonim would support dismantling rouge settlements , to appease world leaders . This derech has been the followed path always by non mizrachi Torah sages i.e. Rav Sonnenfeld and Dahan approach to settling the land. To simply call charedei dicisions bad middos or being bought off is horrible and misinformed. It is a theological ruling plain and simple , if some argue that the Oaths expired than that's a theological argument . In a side point a lot of the hurt from Gaza was from fighting the medinah and not cooperating with the states decision , you can't blame someone else for that course of action . I'm not at all saying that it was right just pointing out that some off the hurt was brought upon .
Now about lapid I'm not sure how someone who calls for makeing Reform equal to Orthodoxy in Israel and who said about Gaza , " It [the disengagement] had nothing to do with the Palestinians, demography, the desire to make peace, the relative [fatigue] of the IDF, or any other explanation that was given. There was a totally different motivation behind the disengagement. The Israelis merely felt that the settlers should be taught a lesson in humility and perhaps in democracy, too. – Yair Lapid, “Things we couldn’t say during disengagement,” May 15, 2006. " can in any way be part of the Geulah .
I just had to get this off my heart .
Happy Purim to all and may we All be Zoche to the Geulah Shelaima.

2/24/2013 12:08 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Anyone who supported the Disengagement from Gaza have brought death and destruction upon Jews and their property. This was known at the time when the decisions were made that this is precisely what would happen. We are now back in Eretz Yisrael. We have already received our permission to be here from the nations of the world. Now we have to survive and to reduce the loss of Jewish lives as much as possible. None of these things were considered as they should have been in 5765, when UTJ joined Sharon's government even though a cursory investigation into the matter would have disclosed that there would be death and destruction in the wake of the unilateral Disengagement. Repeat: It was known at the time that there was a 100% chance of death and destruction that would follow. The decision by UTJ was a totally financial decision on their part taking into account that their yeshivot were far enough north, that Bnai Brak would not be hit by the short to medium range missiles that the Arabs in Gaza had at the time. The fact that disengaging from northern Gaza would put Ashdod into medium range missile range, did not faze their decision. As a matter of fact, when the askanim went to Eliyashiv to discuss the matter, that point was not even brought up. I lived here through every sordid detail of this vile act. If you want, I will quote chapter and verse for each particular day leading up to this cruelty. Sorry, the excuses do not wash away the sins. The Disengagement was evil from the beginning, and anyone who supported it performed an act of unspeakable cruelty. So yes, it is bad bad midot that lead to this.

2/24/2013 12:23 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I agree about Lapid though. And I hate this pact business between BY and Lapid. The compromise solutions need to be first found with the Chareidim and not with Lapid. Torah study for its own sake by Matmidim should not be disturbed. This draft issue is with the part time learners and the slackers, not with really dedicated Matmidim.

Yet, for all Chareidim it should not be a badge of honor to open up schools which refuse to teach Math and the hard sciences. Enough of that ignorance which probably is causing the Vilna Gaon and the Rambam to turn over in their graves.

2/24/2013 12:29 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

In short learning Torah full time as Matmidim should be considered in every respect equivalent to serving in the Army. Yet, most Chareidim like anyone else in the general population do not learn Torah full time. Most simply are not Matmidim, and there is nothing wrong with that per se'. For them there are hesder programs and other initiatives which have been discussed in previous posts in the comments sections about how to do national service.

2/24/2013 12:38 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

And because we all desire for our fellow Jews to be taught lessons, we seem to end up with more dead and maimed Jews who were not in the target audience of being taught a lesson. So has all this lesson learning helped anyone except our enemies?

Yet, when someone consistently expresses hatred for one group or another with no apologies for previous behavior and the pain that that behavior has caused, we need to raise our voices against them and tell them enough is enough. This tit for tat needs to stop somehow somewhere. The criminals that brought upon us these horrible things need to be brought to justice, but vengeance belongs to HaShem alone. And yes, some of the askanim in UTJ engaged in criminal behavior 8 years ago and now seem willing to engage in this behavior again. Lapid on the other hand realizes that there will not be an agreement with the invented people in the foreseeable future because he has learned from that mistake, but that we should talk anyway for the sake of talking. I can deal with that if talking for the sake of talking prevents bloodshed.

2/24/2013 12:58 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

I cannot understand this misconception that we are not supposed to take the Land by force or wage war for EY. Yes I know what passages to which you refer....but just for example, G-d clearly led Yehoshua into battle after battle with clear commands to take his warriors and wage war against the surrounding kings, against the Amalekites and others. We are always to do so in the end...even taking Maimonides position that first we ask them to accept the Noahide laws and if they refuse, then we must kill them.

But Gaza was nothing of this sort at all. We waged war against our own people! It was a sin of monumental proportions. We trained our soldiers through psychological brainwashing techniques to harden their hearts to Am Yisrael. Do you know how many young soldiers committed suicide or are mentally and emotionally disturbed now because of this? Do you realize that this sin against our own people (and the Gush Katif people were holy people) and our right to be in our own Land has demoralized our army, our nation and we still haven't recovered from it.

Sorry to be so strong about this issue but there must be understanding about this horrible and far-reaching tragedy.

2/24/2013 4:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@mkf: I don't see why you should apologize for speaking out strongly regarding Gush Katif and her people. We can't speak strongly enough! Most Israelis -- and I have heard that seculars are included -- see what a colossal error the Expulsion was. Plus, this blog attracts the choir. Most of us agree with you, from what I can see.

The nastiness continues - just recently a town called Maleh Rechavam was ravaged and 9 buildings resided in by Jews were destroyed by the government - see This and other recent devastation of Jewish homesteads would not have happened if the so-called "disengagement" had not occurred 7.5 years ago.

Along with you, I cannot see why our *only* options are prayer and Torah study. These should be first before anything else, but not the only way to express our love and longing for our ENTIRE land. They were our only option while we were separated from the land, but why do we let ourselves be backed into a corner davka HERE and NOW???

Purim sameach,
CDG, Yerushalayim

2/24/2013 6:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2/24/2013 9:11 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Correct last Anon. While we fritter away time talking about the Chareidi draft issue, Obama and the Amalek wing of the Erev Rav (Livni) will be busy trying to send Gog UMagog Massive Protection Force Troops here with the Hagel confirmation. Perhaps it is Providential that Bennett might be blind to this. It seems that Bennett and Lapid have now signed a Chazit Achidah (A United Front) with a pact between the Bayt Yehudah faction and the Bayt Yisrael (Ephraim) faction. They seem oblivious to the danger of not addressing a more immediate issue of somehow entering into Netanyahu's next government. Perhaps they have concluded that the chances of a Likud coalition with Labor are very slim right now, and they would gain at least another 12 to 17 seats between the two of them if they force new elections at this time, causing Likud to wither down to less than 22 seats. This tactic is fraught with danger because by forcing the issue, Netanyahu in desperation might try to pull five or six MKs from Labor, contrary to Shelly's wishes, to enter into a coalition with him before the early Nisan deadline....just before Obama shows up. Bibi has been known to pull such tricks before. He kept Barak around for a couple extra years after the Old Labor Party disintegrated. This is one of those risks for which it is impossible to predict the outcome. Yet, this pact of the two sticks of wood from Sefer Yechezkel 37:16 is for real, but perhaps it is pre-mature because it excludes the Chareidim and Likud from the pact. I won't even hazard a guess where this will end up. These men seem driven to do this by a higher calling, perhaps the Higher Power that ordered that the Sticks of Ephraim and Yehudah be united in Yechezkel's hand. But from where we sit now, perhaps this is a bit pre-mature? One might think all of Klal Yisrael that is not part of the Erev Rav might need to be included in such a pact between Yehudah and Ephraim. Have they jumped the gun??

2/24/2013 9:39 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I can see the need for Likud to wither away in this process which seems to unite the Stick of Yehudah and the Stick of Ephraim in the Light of Geulah, but the light of Mashiach ben Ephraim cannot defeat the Chareidi world's intent to perpetuate the galut for another 1000 years, for those in that world where that is their intention. The Light of Mashiach ben Ephraim can only defeat the Erev Rav. Only Mashiach ben David can defeat the Erev Ze'ir, the part of the Chareidi world that has a vested interest in perpetuating the galut for Jews who want to remain in the desert forever. In short, I am not sure that we are equipped to fight a two front war against both evil forces that are the enemy within, at the same time. Under normal circumstances we should concentrate on defeating the Erev Rav right now, those who worship the Avodah Zarah of World Public Opinion. The other evil of perpetuating the galut for another 1000 years might have to wait, unless the Eibishter wants us to speed up this process. I was considering though that the after effect of this pact between Bayt Yehudah and Ephraim might be that Bibi is the king in Sefer Zechariah 14 when the nations of the world come against it. Under these present set of circumstances, I could see a scenario where the Bayt Yehudah (Bayit Yehudi) faction joins in on the siege against Yerushalayim. This would seem to depend on the Massive Protection Force arriving quickly after the Hagel nomination, once the two kings have fallen in the Syrian conflict.

2/24/2013 10:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2/24/2013 10:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

2/24/2013 11:09 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Yes, this is bizarre. After waking up from my Purim stupor with a little bit of excess wine, who would have thought when we went to the polls over four weeks ago that the head of Bayit Yehudi would have formed a pact with Ya'ir Lapid's Yeish Atid. Netanyahu will try an "end around" by trying to bring in the oldtimers in Labor without giving Shelly the Communist any economic portfolios. I won't wish him success, but this alliance between Bennett's Beit Yehudah and Lapid's Beit Ephraim is now high stakes bizarreworld. I pray that it has G-d's blessing because no one could have foreseen this.

Tomorrow I might dive into the fun in Yerushalayim or Shilo. Shilo has two days of Purim because they are not 100% sure that the walled city that Yehoshua erected pre-existed Yehoshua's arrival. So in Shilo they will read the Book of Esther four times in two days. Yerushalayim was an existing Yebusite city before Yehoshua showed up. So Yerushalayim only keeps Shushan Purim. So good night and Happy Purim for those who get to "party" for two full days.

2/24/2013 11:50 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

i am actually very concerned about what Bennett and Lapid are doing.

Can you explain however what you meant Dov by saying that you could see Bennett or BY faction joining in on the seige against Yerushalayim. I have always felt that described the anti-zionist Jews or the far left who are anti-semitic. I am confused by your statement.

Actually I felt that neither Bennett nor Lapid were afraid of the US and wouldn't be into appeasement. This sounds like they would be appeasers.

(After your head gets clear again of course)

2/25/2013 12:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Zechariah 14:14

14 And Judah also shall fight against Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the nations round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.

2/25/2013 9:47 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Yes, Zecharia 14:14. It is also in Zecharia 12:2. I had always found it perplexing why would Yehudah join in on the siege of Yerushalayim, if the nations are here besieging Israel's control of the Capital City. The answer might very well be that Bibi (Shaul) refuses to step aside to the the Messianic order that is forming around him. It is definitely a possibility that this might happen. Not in my wildest thoughts did it ever occur to me that the Beit Yehudah faction would be in bitter conflict with our King Shaul. But now that I think about it, it does fit the paradigm. And for whatever the reason, apparently Shaul dislikes Bennett intensely. And in no small way is that hatred? affecting these bizarre negotiations. If Bibi is forced to align with a fractured Labor to have a coalition by early Nisan, this rather bizarre situation could develop rather quickly.

2/25/2013 11:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Apparently Rav Lazer Brody does not like the alliance between Bennett and Lapid:

All the best...
CDG, Yerushalayim

2/25/2013 11:07 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

That seems to be the important point. Integrating the Torah world into the "secular" framework will only work if Matmidim remain Matmidim. This requires far more creative thinking than limiting the number of full time Torah learners to 2000 nationwide. I can understand that the money should not be funneled through political parties as it is now in order to depoliticize learning Torah, but this constriction in the "pact" is ridiculous. We need to speak of percentages. What percentage are committed learners? What percentage already only learn part time? I am sure that the answer to the first question is not just 2000 men nationwide. As I said, I don't know where this is leading.

2/25/2013 11:36 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

And if the Army or some national service arm wants to bring in so many observant Jews, the concerns of religious Jews must be attended to. We don't listen to women sing. We don't serve with scantily clad women. We need kosher food only. I am speaking for the legitimate concerns of Chareidim. A true compromise coming together requires people to think about each other from the other's perspective and to have empathy for others who are different from us. Compromise requires human decency, an oft talked about subject on this blog. I must admit that it is distressing to watch behavior where neither side seems ready to give an inch, where one side has to trounce the other or be trounced by the other. We are being given a golden opportunity to think about each other, but again if we are not careful, it will come the hard way.

2/26/2013 12:29 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

And here is the hard way: Give the Amalekit within "exclusive rights" to conduct talks with the invented people:

With this stumbling block, Bibi will go after disaffected Laborites, lose about ten of his Likud MKs, and we will go to new elections. What the heck does exclusive rights mean? I guess it means her own private talks out of the media spotlight with a bunch of phony deals which blow up in everyone's face when everyone finds out about it. She will likely sign on borders before talking about how there can't be any more refugees within the 67 borders. How could a sitting PM give her exclusive rights to something so important? This is the act of a coward. What a mess! Pray for new elections and that G-d takes over where all of these frail people tread before the elections can take place.

2/26/2013 1:35 AM  
Anonymous mkf said...

yes, i know the Zecharia passages and have argued for years that that is Yehudah itself fighting against Yerushalayim as opposed to some other interpretations. However, I cannot think that the Yerushalayim here would be defined as Bibi...even though he is the head of the govt.

I still think these passages refer to Jews who support dividing Yerushalayim, Jews who don't care about EY, Jews who would appease the nations and join them in their siege against Jerusalem.

Like Livni or Olmert for example. just saying...:)

2/26/2013 7:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"And Judah also shall fight against Jerusalem"
It wasn't until Gush Katif and Homesh, actually before at Kfar Maimon, as I davened mincha across a fence with some uprooting force Jewish soldiers, that this sadly really began to sink in. Why wouldn't the IDF/police do like they did in '05, and Yamit, and all of the new small yeshuvim if they end up forced by the Obamanation of the desolation into signing a deal giving away Yerushalim. The old walled city including Har haBait IS Yerushalim, the modern city we do business in is very hashuv and all Jewish but it is just suburbs beyond that.

2/26/2013 7:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Always understood that Yehudah going up to fight against Yerushalayim means the real Jews (Yehudah)will go up against the Erev Rav government which has been in place for 64 years already; no matter who gets elected. If the nations already have come up against the State to divide Yerushalayim, you can be sure that the Erev Rav memshalah will join with them and that is when the true nation of Israel goes up against them. Then the Ribbono Shel Olam will take over - HE wants the Jews to show their love for Him/Torah & Eretz Yisrael and then He will finish it.

2/26/2013 3:49 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

From David Ben Gurion until this very day, coalition talks and transient agreements have always been filled with deception so that neither party doing the negotiating fully discloses where it will concede and where it will hold firm in advance. This seems to me like very good news:

It seems like the "pact" with Lapid is not set in stone after all. BY will likely be entering the government this week. Apparently the "pact" was simply being used as a negotiating stance and a bargaining chip by BY in order to get Bibi to cough up concessions on one of a series of issues. We will soon know what the real deals between the various parties are. I am sure that the Chareidi draft issue will be one of those issues where everyone will compromise in the end even if both sides seemed so intransigent just a few days ago. Sigh of relief. When the new government is finally announced we will have a better idea of the real deals that were made. Peace to Klal Yisrael.

2/26/2013 6:06 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

yes i saw that too...echoing the very big sigh of relief !!

2/26/2013 7:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My rabbi stated once that mashiach Ben Yosef is the State of Israel in it's current incarnation and that when the State finally falls, every one will be weeping for it - everyone in their own house because it will be such a shock for everyone. Then after the State has fallen, mashiach Ben Dovid will come.

2/26/2013 8:36 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

There are several problems designating Zionism the movement as Mashiach ben Yosef. 1. MBYosef is supposed to defeat Amalek in the world wiping him out completely where the Bnei and Banot Binyamin only did a partial job. This will not happen under the authority of the institutions of the secular state without an individual dedicated to doing this at the titular head.

2. MB Yosef sets up a kingdom where human decency is kadmah to the Torah. This will not happen as long as the Erev Rav has influence on internal and foreign policies.

Also there is a Hebrew word for these coalition talks and the deceptions involved in order for negotiating parties to hold their cards close to their vests. These talks have been full of such deceptions. For instance, Bennett makes an alliance with Lapid therefore forcing Netanyahu to offer him an attractive offer to woo him away from "The Pact". It is a word or nickname made up by Ben- Gurion to comically describe these coalition negotiations. Does anyone remember what that word is??

2/27/2013 1:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


2/27/2013 6:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Coalition + Digust = Go’alitzia

Go’alitzia: a combination of the words “coalition” and “disgust” in Hebrew, coined by Yitzhak Rabin to express the compromises that come with Knesset coalition-making.

2/27/2013 6:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In our days, post Alexander the Great entering the temple and the age of chachma taking full force, prophecy lingers in the unintended words of goyim, children, and simpletons. What of this?

2/27/2013 12:28 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

That is it. Go'al with an Ayin means "disgust". May we have Go'el with an Aleph meaning "Redeemer" from the go'al with an Ayin. What a difference one letter could make!

2/27/2013 1:20 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I also received a couple of comments about this prophesy of Malachy from the Roman Church. Let me do some research on it. Yet, I will for now allow the Wiki comment to be posted. The Newsmax article has stuff on Yoshke in it which is not appropriate for the blog even if it is just an advertisement.

2/27/2013 1:23 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Sigh of relief is off. Coalition talks with Bayit Yehudi just fell apart because of Livni having exclusive rights to negotiations and because of her having the Justice Ministry. The issue of "equal burden" for Chareidim is negotiable in order to reach a compromise, but there can be no compromise with Livni scrapping the Levy Report, for instance. Apparently the issue of equal burden for the Chareidim was not the issue which caused the talks to fall apart since on that issue they were making tremendous progress. It was all about Livni. So now Shaul will go mad and just to hold on to power will make every deal possible with the remainder of the forces within the Erev Rav. How the Feiglin faction will react still remains a mystery. Giving Shelly, the nation's leading Communist, the Treasury portfolio will be a symptom of his madness. For the next two months we will have "contractions of childbirth", or as it says in Yirmiyahu 30:5-7

For thus said HaShem: "A sound of terror have we heard; of fear, and not peace. Ask now and see if a male has ever given birth. Why then do I see that every man puts his hand upon his loins like a woman in childbirth, and all faces turn pallid? Woe! For that day will be momentous! There is nothing like it! It will be a time of trouble for Ya'akov, but he shall be saved from it.

I believe that is now and not 2 1/2 years from now, at least the part about the downfall of Edom. If it is 2 1/2 years from now at the end of the Sabbatical year, then the Geulah from the nations of the world will be filled with the Midat HaDin. We are, as of today, 8 months and one week into the pregnancy. The total term of a normal pregnancy is 39 or 40 weeks. 39 weeks is exactly 9 months and one week, and takes us until Lag B'Omer 5773 since Tisha B'Av 5772. I am strictly using the Zohar's dating system. (I am also adding one day because Hillel HaSheini subtracted one day from this past Kislev which this year only had 29 days because he wanted the following Yom Kippur to fall out on Shabbat and not on Motzei Shabbat. So all of the moladim for 30 day months fall out on Rosh Chodesh itself through next Rosh HaShanah.)

2/27/2013 5:10 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Usually the molad falls out the day before, at least 6 hours before, a 30 day Rosh Chodesh, but this year it does not because of the aforementioned reason dealing with Yom Kippur. In ancient times Beit Din had the capability and the right to extend a 29 day month by one more day if witnesses to the New Moon did not show up on day 30. What Hillel HaSheini did was highly unusual. He arranged the calendar where a 30 day month, Kislev, would only have 29 days this year. This created the highly unusual circumstance where the molad for 30 day months falls out on Rosh Chodesh itself. In short we are declaring the New Moon before it can even be seen! But as a Klal we are commanded to keep the Yamim Tovim in accordance with this calendar. Yet, in terms of counting the nine months, a different inyan, I am assuming that Kislev had 30 days as it would normally have under these circumstances in ancient times. Hillel though had good reason to avoid the question about when to begin the fast of Yom Kippur on Shabbat if Yom Kippur, 10th of Tishrei, would fall out on Motzei Shabbat. Unlike Tisha B'Av the fast for Yom Kippur begins at least 18 minutes before sundown on the 9th of Tishrei which would mean fasting on Shabbat for at least 18 minutes before sundown. Anyway that is why I have added a day to the count of the nine months since Tisha B'Av 5772, because pregnancy is not one day less just because the calendar is one day earlier. B'Sha'ah Tovah!

2/27/2013 5:25 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Sorry, slight correction: We are now in the 8th month of pregnancy, and that is 7 months + 1 week since Tisha B'Av 5772.

2/27/2013 6:47 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Also on a related note, there is supposedly going to be a day of Peace Talks coming up very soon. On that day there is supposed to be a cease fire. Yet, the rebels are only going to these talks because of promises made by Sec. of State Kerry and Foreign Minister William Hague of the UK that the West will now support their cause to rid the world of Bashar Al-Assad, or at least find a way for him to quickly leave Syria. Yet, Bashar is going to these talks insisting that he stay in power until his untimely death. So rather than bringing peace to Syria either expect more of the same or expect an intensification of hostilities now that Assad's opposition will now be better armed than it was before. I don't know how the issue of air cover for the rebels in the War on Damascus will be solved. Some are talking about splitting up the country into at least three different countries if now more. Good luck on that one. So far at least 70,000 or even 90,000 have died in the War in the North. Because neither side will back down on whether Assad should or should not continue in power, now that the rebels have Western support on this, I would be inclined to think that this war will now intensify rather than reach a quick, messy conclusion.

2/27/2013 7:07 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Also on a related note, there is supposedly going to be a day of Peace Talks in Syria coming up very soon. On that day there is supposed to be a cease fire. Yet, the rebels are only going to these talks because of promises made by Sec. of State Kerry and Foreign Minister or Secretary William Hague of the UK that the West will now support their cause to rid the world of Bashar Al-Assad, or at least find a way for him to quickly leave Syria. Yet, Bashar is going to these talks insisting that he stay in power until his untimely death. So rather than bringing peace to Syria, either expect more of the same or expect an intensification of hostilities now that Assad's opposition will now be better armed than it was before. I don't know how the issue of air cover for the rebels in the War on Damascus will be solved. Some are talking about splitting up the country into at least three different countries if not more. Good luck on that one. So far at least 70,000 or even 90,000 have died in the War in the North. Because neither side will back down on whether Assad should or should not continue in power, now that the rebels have Western support on this, I would be inclined to think that this war will now intensify rather than reach a quick, messy conclusion. You are welcome to leave your thoughts. Here is just one link on what is going on right now:

Sec of State Kerry has one great merit to be in the position that he is in right now. He gave former Senator Me'ir Chic Hecht of Nevada the Heimlich maneuver back in the 1980s when Hecht, the brother of Marty Hecht a Lubavitcher from Cape Girardeau, Missouri, was choking in the Senate Office Bldg.

2/27/2013 7:15 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Here is the Wikipedia description of how Sen. John Kerry saved Me'ir Chic Hecht's life:

Hecht's name reappeared in the news in the course of the 2004 presidential election because of an event during his term in the Senate. On July 12, 1988, Hecht was leaving a Republican weekly policy lunch when he began to choke on an apple slice from his lunch of fruit salad and cottage cheese. Unable to talk to his colleagues and not wanting to vomit on them, he ran into the hallway, where Senator Kit Bond, a Republican from Missouri, unsuccessfully tried to help Hecht. Senator John Kerry, stepping off an elevator at the time, recognized what was happening and quickly performed the Heimlich maneuver, saving Hecht's life.[6]
For the rest of his life, Hecht called Kerry on Christmas Day (December 25) each year to thank him. Though a conservative Republican who contributed the maximum amount to the re-election campaign of George W. Bush, Hecht said that he would appear in support of Kerry if asked,[7] though he declined to reveal whether he planned to vote for Kerry or for Bush.[6] One of Hecht's daughters, Leslie Helmer, who worked for the presidential campaigns of Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush, helped raise funds for Kerry's campaign, out of gratitude for his action.[8]

2/27/2013 7:17 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

By the way, his brother Marty has renown of his own. Marty's next door neighbor in Cape Girardeau was Rush Limbaugh, Jr. His son Chaim and Rush Limbaugh III were best friends growing up in Cape Girardeau as well as next door neighbors. Rush went on to the American Radio "Hall of Fame". Four years before Rush burst onto the national radio scene, The Lubavitcher Rebbe asked the Hechts of Cape Girardeau to accompany Sen Jesse Helms of North Carolina and his wife on a fact finding trip to Eretz Yisrael to change Helms very negative voting record on Israel. At the time in the mid-1980s, Helms was Vice-Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. So the Rebbe correctly surmised that if Sen. Helms saw non-leftist Orthodox Jews in Israel, he would flip and would become the most pro-Israel Senator in the US Senate. I believe the year of this trip was in 1984, during Helm's re-election campaign. Well it worked. Marty Hecht brought Sen. Helms and his wife to Kiryat Gat, and they went to a Lubavitcher School there. And Helms broke out in tears when he saw all of the little Jewish kids at the school with their tzitzit and kipot. He had not seen G-d fearing Jews since the Bible. I can't give all the details of what he promised from a Senate Foreign Relations slush fund that he was in charge of, but the trip made him the most pro-Israel member of the US Senate after the trip, a 180 degree turn. I met Marty in the mid-1990s. Don Makovsky (MeKaf Zechut) was the minyan man of St. Louis. He called me up and said that his friend Marty Hecht wanted a minyan at the Little Shul by the flood wall in Cape Girardeau for Yom Kippur. I originally did not want to go because there was no Kohen that was going to be there to bless us, but I went anyway. Cape is about 110 miles south of St. Louis. We davened on Friday night and Shacharit and Musaph, and then during the break I listened to the story of the life of a great man, Marty Hecht for almost 2 hours. I listened to the story of Yosef in Little Egypt. (The length of the Mississippi (Pishon) between St. Louis and Memphis is called Little Egypt.) My jaw dropped the entire time. Then after about 1 1/2- 2 hours of listening to him, he got up and did Maftir at Mincha and read Sefer Yonah. I will never forget that Yom Kippur at the little Shul by the Flood Wall in Cape Girardeau, MO.

2/27/2013 7:47 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

By the way, the donation from the Sen. Foreign Relations Committee slush fund was Jesse Helms idea. Marty was simply surprised that Helms had access to so much money. The donation was made to the school and apparently was very legal. end of story.

2/27/2013 9:04 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The minute by minute creeping madness of Shaul needs coverage. We might need to write a 25th book of the Hebrew Bible to record events as they unfold. Here is another chapter in the tales of Bibi:

Unfortunately because of my son's Bar Mitzvah next week, I won't be able to provide more coverage. So feel free to contribute. But trying to talk to Lapid, now that he could not hoodwink Bennett into accepting Livni as Justice Minister, and then offering the Communists all of the economic portfolios that they want, and then trying to bring in the Chareidim after he has brought in Lapid, all of this seems a little bit like madness to me. Just remember this, and mark it as so: The talks with Bayit Yehudi did not break down because of the issues regarding integrating the Chareidim. The proof of that is that NOW HE IS TALKING TO YA'IR LAPID!! The talks broke down because of Livni's elevated position in the next government, plain and simple. He is a teeny bit scared of the world breathing down his neck if he is forced to accept the Levy Report and immediate building in E-1 connecting Yerushalayim with Ma'aleh Adumim. The entire Chareidi issue, even if it is serious, is a red herring. If Bibi would accept the Levy Report and building in E-1, the Chareidi draft issue would be solved by a compromise. Just look what Bibi (Shaul) is doing next. HE IS TALKING TO YA'IR LAPID, who is far more hard line on the Chareidim issue than Bennett is! Don't let the snakes in the media paint this as something else. Bibi is scared of taking on the entire freaking world!!

I am done for a while because we are busy until Shabbat VaYakhel/ Pekudei. I will continue to comment in short spurts because we are in the 8th month of the Geulah pregnancy, and we need month by month coverage.

2/27/2013 11:03 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

For those who are unaware, the 24 books of Tanakh, the Hebrew/Aramaic Bible are divided up as follows:

Five books of Moses are 5 books aka the Written Torah.

Books of Prophesy (Nevuah):
6. Yehoshua (Joshua)
7. Shoftim (Judges)
8. Samuel I and II (Shmuel)
9. Kings I and II (Melachim)
10. Isaiah (Yishayahu)
11. Jeremiah (Yirmiyahu)
12. Ezekiel (Yechezkel)
13. The Trei Asar or 12 Minor Prophets are counted as one book.
(Hoshea, Yo'el, Amos, Ovadiah, Yonah, Micah, Nachum, Chabakkuk, Tzefaniah, Chagai, Zechariah, Malachi) Those are all twelve. Notice that in English Chets are transliterated as Hs, and Yuds are transliterated as Js. You can blame the Johannes Gutenberg Bible for that one.

The Books of the Holy Writings, written from Ru'ach HaQodesh (the Holy Spirit)

14. Psalms (Tehillim)
15. Proverbs (Mishlei)
16. Iyov (Job)
17. The Song of Songs (Shir HaShirim)
18. Ruth
19. Lamentations (Eichah)
20. Ecclesiastes (Koheleth)
21. Esther
22. Daniel- some chapters in Hebrew and some in Aramaic
23. Ezra/ Nechemiah considered as one book. again mostly in Hebrew with some quotes and texts in Aramaic
24. Chronicles I and II (Divrei HaYamim)

Notice all the I and II books are really one book. The Roman Church divided up the I and II books into separate books and the various verses into chapters and verses. It is the one convention that has been universally adopted by Xtians and Jews alike. There are some Talmidei Chachamim who have suggested a revamping of the chapter and verse system to reflect parshiyot of the Written Torah and subject matter changes in the Prophetic books.
The Oral Torah divisions will be discussed at a future time. Since the Xtian world does not accept the Oral Torah along with parts of World Jewry, it should be stressed that the Oral Torah is as integral as the Written Torah and was also given at Sinai and in the 40 years of wandering to Moshe Rabbeinu (Moses). G-d bless.

2/28/2013 12:57 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The Written Torah:
1. Genesis (BeReishit)
2. Exodus (Shemot)
3. Leviticus (VaYikra)
4. Numbers (BaMidbar)
5. Deuteronomy (Devarim)

The Hebrew names of the 5 books of Moshe are the first distinguishable word in the book. BeReishit means (In the beginning or At first). Shemot means Names. VaYikra means (And he called). BaMidbar means (In the Desert). And Devarim means Words. Amongst Chazal, Our Sages of the Ages, many came up with unique names for the 5 Books of Moshe, but the old names where the book is named after the first distinguishable word, still applies today.

2/28/2013 1:04 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I should point out that what Sen. Helms did was actually very wrong. The intent of Marty Hecht, by showing Jesse Helms around, was to change his worldview about Israel and to encourage a more pro-Israel voting record as a Senator and as the Vice- Chair of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. What ended up happening was unexpected to both Marty and the school. Sen. Helms was so taken in with remorse for his prior voting record in the US Senate that he decided to repent by making large contributions of US taxpayer money which he legally had a right to do but morally had no right to do. Yet, he should have repented with his own money, not money from the public till. The large amounts of money available to powerful members of Congressional Committees in the 1980s to dispose of in ways that they pleased is legendary. It is simply part of the culture in Washington DC. If Helms had access to so much money as the Vice Chair, how much money did Richard Lugar of Indiana have access to as the actual Chairman of that same committee? It boggles the mind.

2/28/2013 2:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


MAZAL TOV for your son's Bar Mitzvah!!!!!

PS: You never answered the question Why silver will go up with Moshiach.



2/28/2013 6:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is worthy or a clarification for the good goyim who also drink from Torah here, the ruach hakodesh is one of the ways G-d communicates to humans, think propecy or prophecy lite depending on the context it is not a person. If I get a letter in the mail and I say to my wife, I got a letter saying to arrive at some office at a specified time, she doesn't think mail is an actual person telling me what to do just a communication method in the same way we don't assign person or g-d status to the ruach hakodesh or holy spirit itself.

2/28/2013 8:11 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

More later on the Silver issue. It has to do with Mashiach ben Ephraim. While gold is more associated with Mashiach ben David.

Here is an article explaining how Bayit Yehudi is actually bridging the gap on the Chareidi national service issue.

So the national service issue has nothing to do with the sudden breakdown in the talks. IT IS ALL ABOUT LIVNI!

2/28/2013 9:23 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Yes I too believe her appointment is a tragedy, but might even sharpen our path, it's a bump in the road to Geulah, one we need to deal with.

BTW I just viewed the video of Yair Lapid's speech at Kiryat Ono, maybe a bit later than others. Wow, what a speech. How well thought out; he did a good job of presenting the issues. Dare I say that his words seem to come from Shomayim, but not everyone will take it that way. The issues he sets out clearly are so correct. The only dangerous issue that might cause Haredim to recoil, is the one about neighbors getting to know one another. However, how can one ignore the reality under their noses.

Just want to share this on your blog.

2/28/2013 9:43 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

By going to the Amalek fringe of the Erev Rav first, Bibi has shortened his political career (as Shaul did in his day albeit for different reasons). He would have done better forming a deal with Shaul Mofaz and his two Kadima seats first. He is far more of a realist than Livni is and has a special Chavivut for Yerushalayim. He knows The Chabad Rav here in Kochav Yakov, and he has frequently spoken to him about various ways to secure the envelope around Yerushalayim. Livni is a walking disaster, plain and simple. The fact that Bibi did not first try to bring in the other Shaul, Shaul Mofaz, is telling that there is something wrong in his soul. sorry to put it that way.

2/28/2013 4:35 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Firstly, Mazal Tov on your son's Bar Mitzvah.

When you get the op, see this: Germany (Amalek again?). I guess we have been waiting for this.

Also, what do you think about the JPost comparison of Italy's election with Israel's (their TV outsider and Israel's outsider) Italy's elections: "It’s so easy to laugh at the Italians in the aftermath of their elections earlier this week. They almost invite derision, especially given the success of a populist small-screen comedian – a totally inexperienced political outsider"

I hope I'm not rehashing something you already covered. Was out of it a few days.

2/28/2013 5:56 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

Dov...that move of Bibi's - re: Livni - was completely bizarre.... i can't imagine what he was thinking other than OB having put a gun to his head..

Happy marathon, shabbat shalom, and mazal tov again !

2/28/2013 8:05 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Yea, the Press conference of Bibi with Livni was like Achashveirosh giving his ring to Haman, letting him sign letters of extermination, and then sitting down to have a drink with him. The difference is that Livni is signing letters of expulsion, not extermination, but by doing so thinks that she can turn back the clock to the years of Ehud Olmert (Armilus). She sticks a knife between the Yud Key and the Vav Key with her wretched hand on the Heavenly Throne. And now the entire country is perplexed. End of chapter 3. To be continued. Keep in mind that the Purim miracle began on the previous Pesach. Purim the following year was only the end of the story. And Obie is coming on the 9th and 10th of Nisan. Perhaps we should tie him up and attach him to a bedpost.

2/28/2013 11:25 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Or maybe we should tie up Livni and attach her to a bedpost when Obie shows up.

2/28/2013 11:27 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Now for part of the Buy Silver explanation. In the song Yedid Nefesh there are four verses. Each verse begins with the letters Yud Key Vav Key. We know that the redemption from Egypt involved the Yud and Key in HaShem's Name and the Final Redemption will involve the Vav and the Key in HaShem's Name. The Yud was the finger G-d and performed the 10 plagues in Mitzraim. The first Hey was the hand of G-d and was the five times multiplier at the Splitting of the Sea. (If there were ten plagues in Mitzraim there were 50 at the Sea, so on and so forth.) Then came Amalek to prevent the completion of the Redemption by separating the Yud Key from the Vav Key. In our time, Mashiach ben Ephraim completes the process of bringing together the Vav with the first Yud Key in HaShem's Name. And Mashiach ben David with the Arba Minim brings the final Hey together with the Yud Key Vav in HaShem's Name. This is why three of the species are in one hand the the fourth species is in the other hand. Notice the name YeHUDaH. The Yud Key Vav in his name are attached to the final Hey in his name with a Dalet which stands for the four species on Sukkot. But before Mashiach ben David can complete his task, Mashiach ben Ephraim must complete his task of wiping out Amalek in the world therefore connecting the Yud Key with the Vav in his HaShem's Name. Shaul Netanyahu had the potential to do this. In his name he has the name Yahu gives. Yet, it is in his last name (problem number one) and he is the gilgul of Shaul from Sheivet Binyamin (problem number two). The Meshichut of Mashiach ben Ephraim will be matrilinear. So it would have been better if the Yeho and Natan had been in his first name. Patrilinearly, Bibi is a Levy, by the way, but matrilinearly he is likely from Binyamin. Yet, apparently in our generation we cannot expect our King Shaul to complete the task. The task lies in the hand of another, matrilinearly from Sheivet Ephraim. continued..

2/28/2013 11:55 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

So in the song Yedid Nefesh, the third verse begins with a Vav attached to the first two verses that begin with a Yud and a Hey. In the third verse, there is a passage that says in English, "Old Veteran Friend (Our L-rd who has been with us through this very long exile) may Your Mercy be aroused and please take pity on the Son of your Beloved." One might think that the word beloved here is a reference to David, but the word used here is not Dodecha but Ahuvecha. For it says about Yosef, "And Yisrael loved Yosef more than any of his children." The word ahuv refers to Mashiach ben Ephraim. Yedid Nefesh continues. "Because it has been so long that I have yearned intensely to see the splendor of Your strength." The words for "yearned intensely" are Nichsof nichafti. In the year of the Disengagement 5765 in the Shmittah cycle of Gog Ben Gog, the South Asian Tsunami sweetened the Tzadee, Nun, and Mem during the tsunami by bending the final letters Tsadee, Mem, and Nun. I wrote about this in the first post on my blog, The Tsunami and the Sweet Letters of Judgement. Those three letters stood for, Mashiach ben David, Yitzchak Avinu, and Ya'akov Avinu, three of the shepherds of Israel who were born here. The tsunami was supposed to bring back Israeli youth from their wanderlust in the Lands of the East, so said Rav Yitzchak Kaduri zt"l at the time. The remaining two final letters, Kaf and Pey remained to be sweetened and bent and thereby bring judgement on Mankind for all of the suffering in Jewish history. The Geulah in that Shmittah cycle was tied to Kisufim junction (the Junction of Yearnings), the junction that lead to Gush Katif. The Kaf and Pey stood for Avraham and Moshe respectively and represented the desire or yearning of Jews in the West to make Aliyah and bring the final redemption in that Shmittah cycle (all explained in that first post). Yet, Geulah by choice required one test that would both test our desire for common decency and our desire for redemption during the Biblical Shmittah cycle of Gog from the Land of Magog. It asked for religious Jews to not try to perpetuate the galut another 1000 years and simply stay away from the Sharon government like a plague. Alas we failed that test royally, and Kisufim became a junction of lost hope. The Zohar points to the year 5765 as the 99th year of potential Geulah b'itah after the year 5666. I wrote about this too at the time. In the 99th year of Avraham's life at a spot near Tzomet Kissufim, Avimelech gave Avraham a 1000 pieces of silver as an eyecovering that the miracle baby that would be born to Sarah next Pesach 5766 would be Avraham's child, not the child of Avimelech. Ir wrote about that at the time too. Instead of arriving to Tsomet Kissufim as Nahal Gerar winds its way into Gaza with joy, we arrived in misery, a blown opportunity for a Shmittah cycle that held so much "Biblical" promise. The Kaf and the Pey remained unbent as the Gog ben Gog Shmittah cycle came to a close.

3/01/2013 1:01 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

So now we are in year 5 of the Shmittah cycle where those who delayed the process by 7 years have no say in the outcome. The Geulah will come anyway whether they want it or not. But this time, G-d will not be testing our "Yearning" (Kisufim) for Geulah. He will be judging our money (kesafim) and the letters Kaf and Pey will be bent whether Jews in the West are ready for it or not. And on that day, the value of the real kesef, silver, will go through the proverbial roof. You will know it when your Chase Credit cards stop working. When the value of silver rises above $47 per ounce, the atomic number of silver, JP Morgan Chase Manhattan bank will not be able to make the margin call in its massive short holdings on the metal. The value of silver has been kept artificially low by US Federal Govt. mettling with the margin requirements to hold stock in the metal for the purpose of preventing JP Morgan Chase from going bankrupt. And when that day occurs, Mashiach ben Ephraim will rise. I personally hold no anger against JP Morgan Chase, but if the US uses money or bribery to try to divide Yerushalayim... Let's say that we are very close.

3/01/2013 1:19 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Sorry "yearned intensely" in verse 3 is Nichsof nichsafti. The Samech refers to the 60 year mini-cycle from the end of WW2. The 300 year cycles between the Churbanot of 5108 and 5408 did not repeat itself in 5708, but occurred between 5700 and 5705. And each 300 year cycle is divided into 5 60 year cycles. We learn this from Noach, when every 60 years of his life, the sins of Mankind opened up one of the ten gates to the waters of the deep. The Disengagement took place almost precisely 60 years after Hiroshima and Nagasaki. 5773 is now 60 years after another milestone in nuclear technology of destruction, the testing of the first Hydrogen bomb. Where we go from here or where Persia is going from here, I am not sure.

3/01/2013 1:55 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

In the forced sequestration of the US budget they see a "silver" lining. They are talking our language!

Yet, this one is more telling since by 5775, Seoul, South Korea will exit into Yom SheKulo Shabbat from the Twilight Zone.

From this we see that a war at the edge of the world in the Zohar is connected to the L-rd having a sacrifice in Batzrah, Iraq. The Persians are outsourcing their nuclear weapons program to North Korea. The freak show continues.

So we have to ask ourselves, if Gog W. Bush was Gog, why is this happening the hard way? Why did we need two Shmittah cycles if the Wars of Gog UMagog were supposed to last only 7 years from Hoshana Rabba 5762 when Gog W. Bush started the aerial bombing of Afghanistan? Well it is too late now to fret on the reasons why, move to Eretz Yisrael and watch the show.

3/01/2013 2:30 AM  
Anonymous Shiloh said...

Why Dov, you know why and who's delaying it.

Let's hope that Bibi get's a coalition together so Barry Hussein can visit Israel, along with the new, last pope, things should get pretty interesting here.

Shavua Tov and Mazal Tov

3/02/2013 8:37 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Well after Friday's exposure that Shaul is now offering to freeze construction in Yesha forever and to destroy yishuvim to bring in Yeish Atid, it looks like all of Bennett's moves have been vindicated. It looks like Bibi will now try to bring in the Communists, and Shelly is not a Socialist. She is a Communist. He is desperate to have a government of destruction in place before Obie shows up. Likely at least ten Likud MKs will vote against such a government. It was a real bracha that Shaul's surrender in the Gaza War was four days before the Likud primaries. Everyone in Likud is more rightwing than he is.

Shiloh it will be interesting but a real mess if Bibi tries to pull another Sharon. If ten of his own vote against him, then he really only has about 20 MKs in Likud supporting him, and Shelly and Livni will demand power sharing. It looks like Shaul has created a real mess for himself. Interesting and prophetic, yes it is.

Pray for war in Syria. The US and UK are finally supporting the rebels, but not yet with weapons and air cover yet. anyway extremely busy this week. I will publish in short spurts. If anyone wants to add a comment, feel free to do so.

3/02/2013 9:17 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

According to the Basic Law of elections, if Shaul can't form a government in the next two weeks, the Pres. will have two days to recommend a 2nd MK. Bibi will now be desperate. He will try to bring in Labor within the next 2 weeks. G-d put Feiglin and his crew in power within Likud to block that possibility because of the Gaza surrender. If they are successful, Peres will likely have no choice but to ask Yisrael Beiteinu's number 2, Ya'ir Shamir to form the next government. I wonder how much Shamir is like his father? And alas, another Ya'ir! There is a possibility that by the time Obie gets here, Shaul will be a lame duck.

3/02/2013 11:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It looks like Shaul has created a real mess for himself. Interesting and prophetic, yes it is."

Falling on his sword...

3/03/2013 7:22 AM  
Blogger Dan G said...

Are you aware of the Gemara that says that one of the Sages was rebuked from heaven because he made a derogatory statement about King Shaul?
It's true that King Shaul made some grave mistakes, but to come out and say that after 3000 years he is still so far from rectification that he has to reincarnate in a slick, devious, bare-headed, corpse-eating politician - takes a good deal of courage plus Ruach Hakodesh!

3/03/2013 12:26 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

He could still do teshuvah within this next two weeks by dropping Livni immediately before again talking to BY and Shas. But if he does not, it will only be a matter of time before he seeks advice about what to do from the Witch of Ein-Dor.

3/03/2013 12:29 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

I started this post and then it slid away (due to new software that slips all over the place #%#?!), so here it is again:

I remember reading that this would be the last govt before Mashiach. Now, I just readat Shilohmusings that, “Like it or not, coalition or not, Netanyahu may continue as Prime Minister for quite a while.  Who wants to add up the days to see how many months he may last without needing a coalition”.

According to IMRA, “If PM Netanyahu fails to form a coalition in the coming two weeks the 
Lapid-Bennett bloc will advise President Peres which Likud MK they will 
support to form the government. That Likud MK will accept the t[a]sk for the 
sake of the country and the party.”

So now, how does that fit into the scenario?
BTW Egypt is under attack from 'Makka Locusts'.

3/03/2013 5:50 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

If Bibi fails to rid his coalition of Livni, or her evil talons on the seat of power, my guess is that the Lapid/ Bennett tandem will recommend Ya'ir Shamir. My guess is that Avigdor Lieberman will be forced to decline any request to form a government because of his legal troubles. So Shamir is next in line. Is it beyond the range of possibility that they would recommend Moshe Feiglin?? Considering that the first person to shake Feiglin's hand when he descended from the podium after his Knesset introductory speech was Ya'ir Lapid, I would not even hazard a guess. Anything is possible.

To Dan: We are all, for the most part, back here for one last go around from our 40 year stint in the desert. That many years ago, the world that we live in was less coarse. According to some, halos could even be physically perceived at that time. We know that Moshe Rabbeinu's face after receiving the 2nd set of luchot shown with a tremendous brightness. We are in the coarsest generation in human history. It is so bad now, that there is very little physicality to purify left. All that is really left is the donkey poop as the Talmud explains. The vast amount of physicality (Chomer or Chamur) that can be purified in our march through history has been purified already. So yes, the tests of this generation are very coarse. Plus are you sure that Netanyahu eats neveilut? So yes, it is possible that the tests of this generation are not about the higher levels of Shmittah observance, but about making basic distinctions between right and wrong. A very high soul may very well be placed in a very low coarse world to choose common decency over other pleasures.

3/03/2013 6:47 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Plus Bibi is a life long member of the CFR. I don't want to promote or discount any conspiracy theories. Yet, early on in his life he made a presentation at an anti-terrorism conference that was lauded by Gog HW Bush Sr. And his career was off and running. So he is beholden to these elites who think that the Malkhut of the last 2000 years is a permanent one. For him at least old habits will die hard.

3/03/2013 7:02 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Wait, Feiglin is the obvious choice between Bennett and Lapid and the Chareidim. Our secret. Let's keep the Yetzer confused until the last minute.

Just before the 22 minute mark, look who steps up to shake his hand first! We can only dare to dream.

3/03/2013 9:20 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

And here are the rules.

Notice that it says that the various Knesset members can decide on any MK to try to form a government if the plurality of all the MKs agree. In short the official leadership of the various parties can be overlooked in the 2nd round if in the first round, the head of the chosen party fails at the end of 6 weeks. I guess we will know in less than two weeks if this is worth dreaming about.

3/03/2013 9:56 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Plus Livni kind of reminds me of the Witch of EinDor. She has red hair like Agnes Moorehead.

3/03/2013 10:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you comment on this without devolving into lashon hara?

3/04/2013 1:39 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Obama wants a "timetable of Israeli pullout" from Netanyahu. Bibi is getting squeezed really tight, from within and without. Which way will he go? I read that he is and has been a member of the CFR. So, need we ask? Does the non-coalition revert to Feiglin? Does Lapid/Bennett win the leadership? Do the parties that want to hold onto the Land get in? Is Bibi pushed out?

Does Israel attack Syria? Is the wild storm 'Saturn' headed for the East Coast repeat 'Sandy's devastation' but moreso? Around Virginia/DC?

Let the fireworks begin.

3/04/2013 3:09 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

Very strange timing or interesting or significant timing (depending on how one looks at it)..for what happened today...Feiglin trying to go into the Dome of the Rock..shutting down the Temple Mount.

this whole thing gets crazier by the hour...

Did it happen when you were there for your son's bar mitzvah, Dov? or maybe it wasn't at the kotel...

Interested to hear your comments about it.

3/04/2013 4:53 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Rav Glazierson is speaking of the various people in the Knesset. Erev Rav, Lapid, and Bennett are not one and the same. They are all separate groups of people. As far as we know right now, we don't know what this government will looks like in two weeks, much less so in two months.

Near the end, neither stick, neither the stick of Ephraim nor the stick of Yehudah recognizes the legitimacy of the other. Yet, both sticks will come together in someone's hand, or in G-d's Hand. The Chareidi world is strangely not part of this chart because in reality, some in the Chareidi world will join the House of Yehudah by trying to spiritually affect the House of Ephraim (Yisrael) in a positive way and in turn be positively affected by the House of Ephraim (Yisrael) by learning math and science for the purpose of sanctifying the secular, or some will run away, G-d forbid.

As pointed out before, it would be best if the Chareidi world would establish the lead on this so that the spiritual infuses the physical rather than the other way around. I would agree with you that the other way around would have temporarily tragic and undesirable consequences. I would prefer that the Bait Yehudah absorbed the Chareidi world first before bringing in the secular leaning Yeish Atid. In the last two weeks most in Shas seemed begrudgingly ready to accept that role. I can't speak for UTJ since UTJ seemed not to have given any input to the talks between Likud and Bennett that were bearing fruit until Bibi again played his Livni card. As long as Livni is part of this, expect Bennett to stick with Lapid for the purpose of protecting Yesha. And sorry, expect the heads of UTJ to talk about razing Yesha in order to protect their yeshivot. These are UTJ's public statements, and public deeds from 8 years ago when UTJ enabled the Sharon government. The rules of lashon hara do not apply to public statements that are consistently backed up by public deeds whether those statements or deeds be for good or for ill.

As far as Rav Glazierson himself, I hold him in the highest regard, and he was one of my teachers in Yeshivah 29 years ago, and he has been consistently talking about the years 5760 and 5766 and beyond for that entire span of time. I still have lecture notes from his shiurim from 29 years ago.

3/04/2013 6:26 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

With all these sink holes opening up and swallowing people and land, does anyone know if the Torah warns/says the "earth will swallow up ..... etc."? Is there a remez to anything?

3/05/2013 3:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our dear leader from the twilight zone is again threatening to cancel the armistice and begin surgical strikes to unify Korea.

3/05/2013 5:36 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chavez is dead.

3/06/2013 3:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The consequences of supporting a Palestinian State?

3/08/2013 12:45 AM  

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