Sunday, March 17, 2013

I Can't Make Up Stuff Like This: Presenting..THE BEAST!

I was not planning on really writing anymore until Obamanation that makes Desolate, the half-Muslim and half Xtian 11th horn dude from the Book of Daniel chapters 2 and 7 actually showed up here.  But this is too much as Bizarre World continues to get even more bizarre.  It is not enough that Mr. half iron and half clay is showing up at the beginning of month number 9 since Tisha B'Av 5772.  He is driving around Yerushalayim and then to Ramallah in a make-shift limousine// tank called "The Beast".,7340,L-4356663,00.html   This is what Sefer Daniel says about the horrible beast at the end of the 4th kingdom of Rome... or Obama's new car to drive around Yerushalayim.  Take your pick:

After this I was watching in night visions, and behold! a fourth beast! exceedingly terrifying, awesome, and strong!  It had immense iron teeth, and it was devouring and crumbling, and trampling with its feet what remained.  It was different from all the beasts that had preceded it, and it had ten horns....

Now, take a look at the YNet article.  Some info should stick out as your read it.

The car is sealed and protected from chemical and biological weapons. The windows are bullet-proof, and its doors are an alloy of steel (an alloy of iron), aluminum, titanium and porcelain – proof against roadside-charges and rocket fire.

In addition, the gas tank is armored; the bumpers are equipped with night-vision sensors, cameras and devices to launch tear-gas.  

Now they need to decorate the front bumper of the limo/ tank with a row of teeth as it guzzles its way down the roads of Eretz Yisrael.

What the heck!!  Perhaps the Secret Service should put a post it note on his head to identify him as the 11th horn dude after all!


Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

On Thursday, the Tenth of Nisan, Obamanation that Makes Desolate will come rolling by in THE BEAST in his multiple car motorcade to Ramallah. There is a bombed out building on the road to Ramallah which according to a local tour guide here was the boyhood home of Sirhan Sirhan. This structure is very close to Adam/ Geva Binyamin. Does anyone want to join me as we hold up a sign in front of the assassin's boyhood home as The Beast comes rolling by, to Free Yehonatan Pollard from his servitude in the American Gulag? Pollard is in his 28th year behind bars for a crime for which no one ever spent more than four years in jail.

3/18/2013 12:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any significance to the fact that this is his THIRD visit to Israel?

3/18/2013 8:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dov your post is so funny. I knew you were gonna write something about the beast. Lol. What hashgacha ! Those who are in Israel, please join Dov for Yehonatan. Chag samech and Moshiach now!!

3/18/2013 9:11 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Remember what happened to Titus, I think it was him, a teeny fly entered his nose and drove him crazy. That would be the epitome of traveling around in a Beast. Flies love beasts!

chuckle, chuckle :-)

3/18/2013 9:37 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Have you Daisy lately? After seeing the video about geoengineering, I and all your readers would be very interested in your response to this vis-a-vis the Geula prophecy of earth-warming, melting the Poles' ice, taking us back to the warmth of spring before The Flood; the exstinction of fish in the oceans; the sheath of the sun being removed; extinction of bees and our fruits and veggies (Oy).

This is an enormous topic. Save it for now ... So anytime in the future.

3/18/2013 10:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe BHO will get shot by an Arab in Ramallah n die n have a near-death experience and be made whole again, come back to life. Then he will come back as the name of his car The Beast and use the experience to his advantage saying he saw things or was told a mission that he must now fulfill. Isn't there a prophecy on these lines? They could even stage this when he gets out of that car in Ramallah. I bet he has been researching the characteristics of near- death experiences so that he will be believed when he comes "back to life". The Light will tell him things that he will impose even while still in E. Y.

3/18/2013 10:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He sure is the Beast:

3/18/2013 3:09 PM  
Blogger vincent said...

It could be said that the front of this beast thing - what's it called in English? where the air gets in - It could be said that it looks like teeth indeed, with a little fantasy it does. You know so much better than me; the prophet didn't know the name either, he did not know cars, or the ancient readers would not understand anyway. And or, he did not want to make it too obvious at one point in time. I know you know!

3/18/2013 3:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


G-d forbid anything happen to O while he is in Israel - least of all his death. Jews in galus will be murdered by Obama's sons - the children of Ham..

3/18/2013 4:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh look, the xtian "number of the beast" is even in the URL of the article.

I've wondered for a long while about the numbers on the beast mobile license plate. Is it a code/hint? The two stripes between the numbers look more like an equal sign, so the plate reads 800 = 2. Like atbash only the cipher includes the final letters (א=ץ ב=ף etc)

Is there perhaps a name or title in the Book of Daniel that needs to be decoded in this or similar manner, or do I need to switch to decaf?

3/18/2013 4:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh my. Is it any coincidence that he's coming in on the day you're supposed to receive the lamb into your house for Passover? That is the day, isn't it?

3/18/2013 6:37 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Yes, the tenth of Nisan is that day. We are supposed to inspect all korbanot for four days before they are sacrificed. This one would have traditionally been sacrificed on the 14th of Nisan.

I can't speak of Gematriot until Chol HaMoed because my mind is basically on cleaning. The Beast is the English name for this car/tank/limousine. Obamanation has been using it, I believe, on other foreign trips. Why they chose the name, The Beast, you will have to ask whatever brainchild in this corrupt Administration why they would have chosen such a name. At least Gog W. was not proud that he could have been the chosen one to divide Yerushalayim. Obama is a bit more "in your face" when it comes to his relationship with the Almighty.

The number 666 is based on a famous Gemorah in Megillah. There are 300 princes of Germamya of Edom and 365 princes of the Roman (Church). That adds up to 665 princes. Separate from The calculation of how many princes were in Medieval Germany is the fact that there would be a 666th prince from Austria, not included in the German count. Oesterreich was of course the stomping grounds of Hitler, Yemach Shmo. Austria historically was part of the Hungarian Empire, while the other 300 little fiefdoms in Germany were always at war with each other. So Adolph H. was the 666th prince, at least 70 years ago.

3/18/2013 6:56 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

Obama is a bit more "in your face" when it comes to his relationship with the Almighty.

Well, that IS the description in Sefer Daniel of that 11th horn dude as you call him.

3/18/2013 7:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Assets stashed in Cypriot banks over €100,000 are being surprise taxed 10% as part of an EU bailout. This is a potential panic starter when people do irrational things to avoid this sudden change, there are already lines and the ATMs are all emptied out. This is hitting foreigners, especially Russian gangsters hard.

3/18/2013 8:06 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Anonymous at 8:06, I think the surcharge is on deposits.

3/18/2013 8:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dov, interesting stuff. But I must ask you. What exactly is it that you are trying to say? Are you trying to predict something? Please clarify.



3/18/2013 8:24 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

no prediction. just more validating evidence that Obama is the 11th horn leader from the Book of Daniel, and he is in year 5 of a maximum of 7 years.

The Zohar predicts an event in "The Great City of Rome" in the 9th month or at the end of 9 months after Tisha B'Av 5772. "Rome" is supposed to be hit by a massive meteorite shower in 5773. A lot will depend on the pressure that Obama puts on us to accept his pre-67 boundary ultimatum. The Pope's installation in Rome is about the same time as Obama's visit? I really have no time to check all the particulars until Chol HaMoed because my son's Bar Mitzvah has delayed cleaning for Pesach. If someone else has more time, please do so.

3/18/2013 8:43 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The Pope's installation is tomorrow. A lot of Catholic leaders will be there which means Joe Biden will be there. Perhaps Pollard will be released over Biden's dead body as he has prayed for that to occur.

3/18/2013 9:48 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

lots of world leaders showing up already for Tuesday's gathering. pure Edom, not mixed with Yishmael. Hmm.

3/18/2013 11:00 PM  
Blogger Devorah said...

Obama lookalike cast as Satan

3/18/2013 11:29 PM  
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3/19/2013 1:33 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Hatzlacha on your Pesach preps.

Ooooh! So all the Edom/Romie leaders are scheduled to gather together ... in Rome ... Isn't that a prediction of sorts ... for a devastating event .... maybe ... even if it's not Tisha B'Av ... maybe an earthquake to instill some fear ?

3/19/2013 9:23 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I was referring to the Fire, Hail, and meteoric stones on the "Great City of Rome" in 5773. The only problem with that is that this Pope himself "seems" like a decent man, even if he is a Jesuit. It is way too early to tell what type of person he is.

Some of the people assembling to give him kavod at his installation of course are some of the wickedest people on earth. Joe Biden happens to be one of them. We shall see if it happens, or if we are a bit too early for it to occur.

3/19/2013 11:01 AM  
Anonymous mkf said...

Didn't you say the 9th month after Tisha B'Av? Isn't the 9th month Iyar? or maybe i am confused or you aren't talking about the calendar per se.

On another subject here are a few countries involved in running weapons to Syria.

3/19/2013 3:45 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

BTW there is the weirdest set of tunnels and canopies going into the entrance and surrounds of the King DAvid for OB. One of them has 3 enormous vents with huge flexible hoses wound around on the outside...are they expecting to be trapped in the entrance to the Hotel and need air?

3/19/2013 3:54 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The ninth month should begin on the 10th of Nisan. We will complete a full 8 months since Tisha B'Av 5772 today, on the 9th of Nisan. This comes after adding that extra day because we dropped the 30th of Kislev. I explained this in a previous post. But the ninth month will have an additional week or so because the average pregnancy lasts 39 to 40 weeks. That would be between 9 1/4 to 9 1/2 Hebrew months. If we accept the lower figure of 39 weeks, then the ninth month will begin on the tenth of Nisan and will end after the 17th of Iyar on Lag B'Omer. Bli neder I will do a post tomorrow entitled the Ninth Month, now that someone has used chemical weapons in Syria.

I am sure that will be one of the acute points of discussion between Obama and Netanyahu. Obama did vow to jump into the Syrian conflict with both feet if Assad uses chemical weapons. His vows may not mean much unless someone holds his feet to the fire.

3/19/2013 8:45 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

i know you did explain the 9th month before Dov, i'm sorry, all the calculations are a little over my head.

So the 10th of Nisan is Thursday, the Day OB rides the Beast to Ramallah, and the day the korban lamb is to be received into our houses if we were doing sacrifices?

That's a lot of stuff for Thursday.

3/19/2013 10:17 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Yes, Thursday is a busy day, but here in East Benjamin, we are going absolutely nowhere for hours. They are sterilizing Route 60 from Yerushalayim all the way to Ofra for several hours. Not a living thing will be allowed in sight. We won't even be able to travel to Sha'ar Binyamin to shop. In short we are stuck on our yishuvim and I won't be able to stand in front of Sirhan Sirhan's boyhood home with a poster. I am not sure if this sterilization applies to the Arab's tending their sheep and goats. I am assuming it includes them because death threats have emanated from some in the Pelishti Authority.

And this Thursday is the beginning of month number 9 since Tisha B'Av 5772. And I am not sure if anyone will be responding to the actual use of deadly chemical weapons in Aleppo.

3/19/2013 10:28 PM  
Anonymous Talmid 123 said...

Well, nothing really happened with that Zohar and the meteor shower on Rome.

God, it seems to me, has a master plan that involves: banks runs, economic collapse, and anarchy. Moshiach seems to be more of a process than an immediate geulah (by meteor shower or nuclear war).

Cheers ;)

3/20/2013 4:32 AM  
Blogger ariela said...

I would certainly say we have been experiencing some Braxston Hick's.

3/20/2013 4:49 AM  
Blogger ariela said...

Okay here's is relevant labor pains.

3/20/2013 8:28 AM  
Anonymous mkf said...

Can't make this stuff up either.

Presidential Limousine Breaks Down in Airport

The limousine prepared in Israel for President Obama wouldn’t start, and a substitute has been hastily arranged to be transferred immediately from Jordan.

3/20/2013 1:36 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Do you have a link, MKF?

3/20/2013 1:42 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

So The Beast is "out of service" for the rest of the trip? I did see that he took a helicopter from the airport, but he will need a limo within Yerushalayim. no time to look for it. Does anyone have a link?

OMG, found it. From Times of Israel

more on that broken-down presidential limousine, which had to be replaced at short notice.

“The Americans filled it up with diesel, rather than petrol,” reports Channel 2 — stressing that it was the Americans, not the Israelis.

Unsurprisingly, the car wouldn’t start.

3/20/2013 2:03 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The Heavenly Ct. must be he having a good laugh right now. Here is "The Beast" needing a tow truck because the American advance team put diesel fuel into the car/tank/limo that runs on regular gasoline. Why didn't they just ask the Israelis who retrofitted the limo here in Israel?:

I pray that this entire trip is a comedy of errors, and the good L-rd continues to laugh at the nations that gather against us.

3/20/2013 2:37 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

In my area, nearby PM and Pres residences, there is constant activity, police, TV trucks, helicopters overhead, I guess following the car routes to and fro, dinner here, Israel museum, dinner there. The guy is having a fun vacation away from all the watchful eyes of American Leftists and US busybodies. According to the printed schedule Obama will be all around my area streets off and on. Ynet news has the schedule.

But meanwhile the birdies are unfazed by the commotion, singing the day away. And I'm still making Pesach, hoping to begin cooking tomorrow! Shabbat is coming soon.

3/20/2013 3:43 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Had to take a break. I know this will sound crazy, and why not. With all the flurry of preparations for Pesach, my head is starting to spin a little, with all the buzzing helicopters overhead, many of us taking our homes apart, to put them together again, dressed in The Kedusha of Passover (helicopters), while lehavdiil a 'special guest' is flying, riding, and being given a royal treatment on our land almost feels like Mashiach is here. What next, a big blast of a Shofar?

Yes, it is crazy! Forgive me.

3/20/2013 5:26 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The next thing will be an announced partial bldg. and construction freeze outside of the settlement blocs before all hell breaks loose in either Syria or Korea.

3/20/2013 5:29 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Here is The Blaze's take on how "The Beast" was filled up with the wrong combustible fluid. I wonder if the limo that they flew in from Yarden is called "The Beast 2,3, or 4"

3/20/2013 8:18 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

Guess everyone is busy with Pesach cleaning preparation and Shabbat. But i wanted to mention 2 things.

1. It seems like the SANDstorm to usher out OB is the Sandy's earlier. Can you comment on that Dov? Words like severe judgement and also profane and desecration associated with chul or chulin come to my mind right away.

2. I was struck by all the words of blessings spoken in OB's presence and even over him. The scene of Dudu Fisher singing Oseh Shalom in front of or to OB was weird to me. Either it was so defiling OR is it possible that the power of the words/blessings/prayers in Ivrit especially would have an impact on OB?

the whole thing was so bizarre. Not to mention oB's communistic tactic to cull specific youth from the nation and admonish them to come against or overthrow their leaders. Basically his message.

3/22/2013 3:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

was posted by noahide on saturday

3/23/2013 5:08 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Yes, his Saul Alinsky style of asking left wing students to basically overthrow their own legit. government here in order to create an atmosphere of self-annihilating behavior here was downright profane. more during Chol HaMoed.

3/23/2013 7:51 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Rather than speaking to the Knesset, he chose to come here as a community organizer to overthrow the existing order. But he is no different at home in the US in his domestic policy too. glad that he is the End of the West.

3/23/2013 7:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hundreds people report meteor. Hashem tuning man's head to the heaven's... What next?

3/24/2013 5:22 AM  
Anonymous mkf said...

well if i understand what Dov is saying from the Zohar, the expected meteor shower that causes panic is only in the 9th month which we have now entered. (10 Nisan) It could be Rome USA or Rome Italy, but the earlier gathering in Rome Italy for the Pope didn't count as was still in the 8th month. Interesting then that the heavens are starting to lighten up in the eastern united states.

3/24/2013 12:00 PM  
Anonymous avf said...

Rav Smhuel Vosner warns of threat to the State of Israel from cutting Torah Support in the budget .

3/24/2013 4:23 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I have no time for lengthy responses right now, but feel free to comment.

short note: As the prosperity of the 5th year kicks in, yeshivot will find an unexpected and unanticipated source of money: Jews in Eretz Yisrael who will become more wealthy because the monopolies and the oligopolies are being broken up. The Free Market will provide a boom in prosperity and g'virim here in Eretz Yisrael as opposed to wealthy Jews the lands of our dispersion. This break up of the concentrated wealth (in the form of monopolies and oligopolies) really needed to be done over 30 years ago. better late than never. Yet, during the transition, true Matmidim should continue to receive a salary from the State. But the resultant transition will result in a better situation where the obligation to support Torah is transferred from the State to individuals whom G-d has blessed. Let us stop thinking like Communists and Socialists who believe that the wealth of our nation comes from the government. G-d blesses a nation with prosperity through its productive and creative individuals, not through its Federal apparatus. And support for the Torah therefore becomes a mitzvah for the individual, not a mitzvah for the State. It is time to stop looking to the Mapai Socialists for the answers to our funding problems.

3/24/2013 5:16 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I just wanted to redo one very important sentence:

The Free Market will provide a boom in prosperity and g'virim here in Eretz Yisrael. We won't have to depend on wealthy Jews outside of EY for support any longer. We saw how in the previous Shmittah cycle dependency on the the wealth of Jews in Brooklyn lead to UTJ joining in Sharon's Disengagement coalition. The continued dependency on American prosperity proved to be poisonous to the Geulah occurring in the previous Shmittah cycle to our dismay. (I have explained this in the Comments section of a previous post.) We need our own g'virim here, not there, to rid ourselves of that poisonous situation. Naftali Bennett and Rami Levy are just the first of such g'virim. A wide variety of wealthy Jews whom G-d will have blessed is made possible by a Free Market where monopolies are broken up and collusion between a bunch of oligopolists is penalized with stiff fines.

3/24/2013 5:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While free market is good and mostly Torah based it is a pseudo science much like psychology where only best guesses are possible.
We fail when we take free market to the religious lever that is seen in the galut amongst right wing mostly frum Jews and protestants who see prosperity as a public mark of divine favor rather than a simple trust which is an opportunity to do mitzvot.
If we look forward to a mundane enrichment especially as redemption comes so near to the last moment I fear we might just get the Rambams more mundane version of geula.

3/24/2013 6:08 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Ein kemach Ein Torah. The Free Market, in most but not all circumstances, just provides the kemach to serve HaShem lishma. The Free Market is not an ends onto itself, but the best way to insure a prosperous society so that our greater worries are not on subsistence but on how to serve G-d lishma.

3/24/2013 6:27 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I should point out that this is the 33rd Israeli govt. The switch from serving G-d to make money to making money to serve G-d takes place at the 33rd level of purity. We had a Chazakah on the Mon on Lag B'Omer when it fell in the desert, and as a nation it is as far as America can go as a Klal. What remains unclear at this time is if it is possible for the gilgul of Shaul HaMelekh to shepherd us through that switch in worldview. He is busy apologizing to our mortal enemies in order to form alliances against Iran.

Underneath him, both Lapid and Bennett will be working hard to wrest the country away from the hands of the 18 Oligopolists and put it into the hands of true entrepreneurs who can be blessed by G-d to prosper through their efforts.

3/24/2013 7:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An oligopoly is hard to break. These Jews used their influence and protectsia to buy state owned businesses agarot on the shekel, but very legal, if you can afford to buy the influence.
Now they have the means to be the financiers of industry as well as personal credit which buries every Israeli, they reap massive ribbit. Our sages have used the concept of a business partnership for banks and businesses to charge ribbit(intrest) in contravention of the serious issur on ribbit between Jews. I still am amazed how a partnership is somehow involved in quarterly late fees or how Jews are halachicly allowed to pay these fees though most are not to a human yid but to a corporation.
That said these oligarch families did acquire their empires according to the law, even laws they paid to have passed, and unfair their advantage may have been I am not sure how their wealth could or should be taken away in a halachic fashion.
In the romanticized holy shtettlach the massive inequity and abuse of the poor was far worse than in modern Israel. The wealthy here don't kidnap the children of widows to fill the draft for the tzars army.

3/24/2013 9:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is a serious question:

what's the difference between relying on Jews in Egypt (Brooklyn) and relying on Egypt?

3/24/2013 9:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Torah states the poor will always be amongst us - even after mashiach comes so it's up to us to do the mitzvah, not the government.

3/24/2013 11:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rumors are swirling that Assad has been assassinated by a body guard...

3/25/2013 1:02 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Quick answers on the 14th of Nisan:

1. The purpose is not to steal the money of the oligarchs, but to make them compete on an equal playing field with others starting up a business, with the help of anti-trust and pro-competition legislation. Ending all import monopolies for certain products is a good start. The price of things like car parts will plummet.

2. The situation where because of our King Shaul's "surrender" in the Gaza War where we are depending on Egypt for our security around Gaza is abominable. Yet, the only person who will replace "Shaul", is one of the two Mashiachs. Until such time as that occurs, we are stuck with his defeatist decisions.

3. The defeatist decision of apologizing to Erdogan seems to have been in part driven by the need to work with Turkey to secure the chemical weapons stockpile when Assad's regime collapses. As Yishayahu predicts when Damascus falls at the end of days, we are in for a real mess with Geulah written all over it. Russia will act in a very unpredictable way to secure its Syrian base on the Mediterranean in Tartus. Have we reached that precipice finally? We surely have been waiting for it.

Chag Sameach.

3/25/2013 1:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hope this will bring a small measure of comfort to those who worry about Tzipi Livni's ability to damage:

"Livni's Diplomatic Powers Fictional, Says Likud Source" by Gil Ronen

She will be closely supervised by Prime Minister Netanyahu and others.

Chag sameach!

CDG, Yerushalayim

3/25/2013 9:51 AM  
Anonymous mkf said...

i simply cannot stand to read or hear about this Turkey fiasco. Really...spoiling my chag. Shutting off the news. It's disgusting.


Moadim l'simcha !!

3/27/2013 4:00 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The apology to Erdogan is because of Bila'am's last prophesy. According to Bila'am this apology to the Bnai Kittim in Constantinople is our last gasp of pain. Read the Targum Yonatan on the Flotilla that comes forth from Kittim. Even though it was 2 1/2 years ago, the event has not reached its final conclusion.

3/27/2013 11:15 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Carefully read the Targum Yonatan on Bila'am's last prophesy about the flotilla. "A Navy of ships will go forth from the coast of Kittim will afflict Ashur and will afflict Eiver, but it too will be destroyed forever." I will fully translate the Targum Yonatan on that again soon, but he points out that the starting point for that flotilla was Constantinople 300 years before Constantine even lived. This pain has been brought back upon us again for the ninth month of the pregnancy. And now the other shoe is dropping:

3/27/2013 11:33 PM  

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