Sunday, August 21, 2005

There is a Tachlit (Purpose) for the Previous Post

For those who think that the previous post is all about relieving frustration and sowing dissent, you are wrong! Now that the problem has been uncovered, I welcome suggestions about how to heal these wounds. There is no time to wait for Gedolim to heal these wounds. Time is of the essence. Everyone needs to be a Kanai (a zealot) with their own ideas. Ideas about implementation are also welcome. I personally have no idea about getting Gedolim to implement things that should have been implemented a long time ago. I am as of this writing composing a list of five or six things that can be done to at least start the process of repair before, G-d forbid, Gog W. comes to divide Yerushalayim and uproot everything in his path.

1. Any Jew who cares about his eternal soul should IMMEDIATELY leave this government. It is worse than disgusting to be even remotely associated with these animals. Rav Eliyashiv left last month with his two seats. Unless someone knows differently apparently the other half of UTJ with three seats is for some strange reason still in this government.

2. An apology should go forth from anyone who joined this government to the Tzaddikim of Gaza and to the good people of Ofakim, Netivot, Sederot, Kfar Maimon, and southern Ashkelon and any other city in the southwestern Negev for supporting the furtherance of this atrocity.

3. An explanation should accompany the apology of anyone who joined this government that the leaders of UTJ are ashamed that they did not inform their followers in Israel and throughout the world that they never supported this vile act and that they are sorry that they did not dedicate all learning, davening, and mitzvot observance to saving the Jews of Gaza and, G-d forbid as of this writing, Jews of the Northern Shomron from being separated from their life's possessions. "We are sorry that we did not inform you that our joining this government was in no way an indication that we supported this atrocity. We just wanted to save our schools and yeshivot from Tommy Lapid's tyrannical intrusions. We were wrong to join in January. Waiting three months for elections would have been a better choice. All learning, from this point on should be dedicated to stopping this B'chol Me'odecha (life's possessions) carnage."

4. American Jews in particular should be told by these Gedolim: "It is time to get off your fanny and start flooding the White House switchboard that enough is enough. Gog, you are not G-d. You cannot fashion a new Middle East. We could give a hoot about our pet legislation that is sitting on your desk for your signature. We (Orthodox Jewish Organizations) helped get you elected. We do not need to kiss your royal White House ring. We are disgusted at your pressure to bully families out of their homes just to please your oil rich friends in the Arab World. Keeping the price of oil below $100 / barrel is important, but Gog, JEWS ARE NOT YOUR GUINEA PIGS FOR MAINTAINING THE WEALTH AND PROSPERITY OF YOUR DYING CIVILIZATION! GOG, ARE YOUR IDEAS WORKING IN IRAQ? ARE THEY PREVENTING PERSIA (IRAN) FROM BUILDING NUCLEAR WEAPONS? WHY DON'T YOU GO DOWN WITH YOUR OWN SHIP!" Some alternative of the previous script can be adopted. Again how to get the Gedolim to implement this requires creative thinking on your part. After making this phone call to show Gog W. that you are more afraid of G-d than Gog, get down to davening, tehillim, Perek Shira, and teshuva for sitting on your fannies for the last year. (Of course this teshuva only applies to those who sat on their fanny this past year and did nothing to stop the atrocity.)

5. The National Religious in Israel are not blameless either. Joining the government in 2002 that was going to be formed without them anyway was one matter and understandable, for a purely secular government with no religious Jews would have been formed without NRP (National Religious Party). Joining in any of Tommy Lapid's destructive tactics against the survival of Yeshivot and religious schools was despicable in anyway that this occurred. NRP should have acted as the yeshiva world's twin brother in fighting this bully of destruction especially on the issue of protecting the yeshiva world from going into bankrupcy. A realization that when 1000 Jews go to war that 1000 remain behind learning full time and vice versa would have been an important motto in any pact between the Religious Zionist and Bnai Yeshivot. An apology is mandatory from whatever is left of NRP, IMMEDIATELY.

Any other ideas on international Jewish Teshuva are welcome at this time. If anyone has an idea on how to convince the gedolim who can make the difference (including Rav Eliyashiv and the Gerrer Rebbe), please let us know! If you want to be the focal point for petitions and letter writing, let us do so now. The clock is at 11:59 and ticking. I am not the expert at organizing massive drives. If someone else who is wants to help take on this load, please let me know.

Now I must end with a joke, for some humor which stresses the danger we are in is required at this time. I heard this from Rav that many may know, but I must first get his permission to use his name in association with this joke. I changed this slightly to reflect the proper final dispensation of "Slick Willy". Al Gore, "Slick Willy" Clinton, and Gog W. Bush were traveling on Air Force One when it crashes with no survivors. They go up to Shamayim (heaven) for their Day of Judgment. G-d, in His Infinite mercy, grants them all one final plea before He pronounces sentence. Al Gore steps forward first and says, "I believed until my death that I won the year 2000 presidential election. Only now in the World of Truth do I see that even though I thought that I won, I really lost. And now I also know why. Please forgive me for insisting that I won. G-d says, "Insisting that you won when you lost is not a grave sin. Besides you have lead a basically moral life with your wife Tipper. Your public support for abortion even though you never did one yourself has created some distance between you and me, though. Yet come here and sit some distance from my Left Hand." Al Gore goes and takes his seat. Slick Willy steps forward and begins to speak. "I know that I lead a pretty wretched sleezy life. Besides cheating on my wife and having my way with women against their will, I gave American missile technology to the Chinese communists in exchange for campaign contributions. I pardoned some pretty sleezy people the last night that I was President in order that they would not implicate me in illegal investment activities when I was running for Governor of Arkansas. I stole the White House silverware before leaving the White House. But I am sorry now. Can I sit by your Right Hand? G-d roars, "Teshuva must be done before you die, not when you show up here." Follow that guy with the red horns and the pitchfork through the door on the left please. Then Gog W. steps forward. G-d says, "Yes, Gog W. What would you like to say in your defense." Says Gog W. Bush, "I believe you are sitting in my seat."

A proper article about the wierdest and closest election in human history, the Year 2000 presidential election will if G-d permits be my next post. The striking proximities of the events of the recount after recount of that election in three Florida beach counties with the Torah portions of the week during the recounts is much more than coincidental.

66 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

We were informed by the Rebbe that the final test of the Yidden would entail the following. Perhaps this Teaching will help you recouperate.

The Rebbe referenced what happened with Eliyahu at Mt. Carmel. How the Heavenly Fire came down upon his sacrifice while nothing happened on the alter of Baal worshipers. The Rebbe told us that the final test would be akin to Heavenly Fire descending on the alter of Baal and still we will be required to believe in Hashem in spite of such seeming refuting evidence to the contrary...and from Heaven, no less.

Of course there are those amongst frumma Yidden who immediately dismiss that the Rebbe was/is a true Novi Yisroel...in spite of such being publicly declared by the Rebbe in Shoftim 5751. See here:-

http://www.sichosinenglish.org/books/sichos-in-english/49/20.htm

And the Halacha states that a true Prophet must be believed and obeyed. Furthermore...when a true Prophet gives over a positive Prophecy and identifies himself as Moshiach Tzidkeinu....as the Rebbe did...the Halacha demands that he be believed and obeyed. The Halacha also demands that Heaven fulfill this positive Prophecy or else no one will ever believe a positive Prophecy again.

When all else fails....read the instructions. Those of you who had lenient thoughts about Zionism...imagining that it could be redeemed and elevated to Holiness have learned a real hard and real-time lesson. Neither Zionism's sting nor its honey do I desire.

And what about the frumma velt? It is a cluster of armed camps at war with each other for funding and influence. Each imagines that it has the ultimate "Daas Torah" and looks down arrogantly on others...as their inferiors. Elitism in Tallis and T'fillin...the very opposite of bittul.

The Rebbe also stated "No achdus, no Keser." Nowhere more is this lesson more relevant and needed to be learned than inside the dirty politics of Chabad Incorporated, itself.

It's time for a revolution within and without.

Rabbi Moshe Yess

8/22/2005 12:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The rebbe was aprophet ive been very sick for 17 years ive had 50 or so dreams with him -He without a doubt is a prophet and in the end will be revealed to all the doubters in ALL the religious camps as our neshama klali(source of all the souls in this generation). The rebbe had very long fingernails to include the reshaim in our people.He is the ONLY rebbe in this generation or maybe any for moses got angry a lot to care about every jewish soul no matter where they held. Furthermotre in one dream i saw Moshe rabbeinu on one side of 770 with a big tallit over his head the rebbe was on the otherside i knew it was moses because i could tell by his precense and the light like the sun emenanting from his tallit- i could not see his face. the rebbe told me in one dream where on his body my neshama resided.All the neshamot of this dor reside in his soul.I kow good people in many camps satmar, tosh, litvack regretably they insult him or worse slander him as a fake- this pains me no end i no longer pray in a synagauge- but pray in the fields or in my bed.Ive also had dreams with Hashem twice this is quite frightening and i dont want to elaborate, other tzaddikim baba sali, rav kadri, yaakov abuchatzeira, rav nachman of breslov who is MY rebbe- and stands for it all 4 things no fakery in rabbis 1 tshuvah hitbodedut 3 meditation with Hashem through constantly yearning speaking pleading arguing sometimes fainting or crying4 and eretz yisrael 4. Im no tzaddik i no my puniness and my own unworth- yiddin please join the rebbe of chabad- as for the dreams whatever you believe doesnt matter i cant speak to a stone to make water- join the rebbe.

8/22/2005 6:00 AM  
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8/22/2005 6:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have so much distrust and yes antagonism for the orthodox world how there rallying cry of unity was and somewhat is as we all know to slam the rebbe of chabad- when you say hes mashiach its like they say how do you know and not my rebbe, roshei yeshiva- all i know is when i walked with elyahu the prophet 12 years ago in tzfat he told me a lot of things- people dont know what a great tzaddik nistir shlomo carlbach is- the rebbe of chabad is the mashiach of this dor but we are not ready yet-jews have a right not to believe in Hashem properly after the shoa- mashiach almost came during the shoa- i had a serious sickness in to much pain to ask why he didnt-Elyahu told me asked heaven why the teachers of torah in this generation in general were not good-excuse the lashon hara) this comes from the prophet elyahu not me. when baruch goldstein did his act it saved a decree in am yisrael the arabs were willing to die but jews werent - he overturned that decree in heaven-what i have to go through this isnt important his words have been true so far the last 12 years completely.I asked about rabbi kahane z'l he said he was a good jew-He explained he elyahu was a conduit between heaven and earth- i tested him in public it was proven- i yelled loud at him elyahu hanavi elyahu hnavi directely at him as he was nonshelontely talking in a shul in szfad to some american baalei tshuvas in their 20's he turned at me and smiled nicely there not supposed to hear what there not supposed to hear im a conduit between heaven and earth.He told me other things but thats not relevant-He told me i couldnt bring mashiach through divine names- id been doing deep meditation on the name of 72 from chayai olam haba at rashbis and elsewhere. He said he came to me at the aris grave when i was calling for him parshas beshlach 12 years ago because of 2 reasons ahavat yisrael Which in the inside my soul i have but im far from a people person quite opposite-i feel to much pain at whats happening .The tzaddik in naharia rav david abuchatzeira confirmed this for me when i saw him in person- when i told him the holy grandson of baba sali named after the martyred older brother of baba sali about this he understood- i want to write more but i feel a tinge and heaven wants me to stop.Im the same anonymous who wrote so brazen faced lee as so many of the menchin out there will thiink- im not amensh yet im a work in progress that ive had many dreams with the rebbe- if anyone asks why me- if you knew what ive been through you wouldnt wasnt to be me. May it be enough and eliyahu come speedily.

8/22/2005 6:47 AM  
Blogger AharonBenjamin said...

The Alter Rebbe explains in the Tanya that if one has "strange thoughts" begin to enter his head when he sets out to daven to HaShem, that this may cause one to think that there davening is ineffective and blemished. Says the Alter Rebbe, on the contrary - these strange thoughts themselves are an indication of the strengthening of the Divine Soul, which inspires the Animal Soul to strengthen itself against her.

The Alter Rebbe suggests that one ought to not react to the strange thoughts, rather he should strengthen himself in his prayer - and HaShem will ultimately help him, since a part of HaShem is with him (with every Jew). (See Tanya end of chapter 28).

8/22/2005 8:58 AM  
Anonymous SimpleJew said...

last night i was listening to the israel national radio when i heard an american jew, reb Leib (i think), pleading with his listeners, asking everyone to step up and start doing something (protecting Erezt Yisroel/rebuilding a new Israel). he cried, saying that in the absence of leaders we shouldn't wait for the new ones to reveal themselves, we should become the leaders! if someone appears who is worth to follow, we should.

until then we must lead those who are prepared to follow us. there is no time to waste, and "see what happens". there is a lot to be done

8/22/2005 9:04 AM  
Anonymous SimpleJew said...

... (sorry, pressed publish before i finished)... there is a lot to be done in helping those who has been expelled and in informing those who hasn't been informed by those who are currently taking up posts of "leaders". good luck everyone!

8/22/2005 9:08 AM  
Anonymous Eldad said...

Dov, I'm surprised that you are proposing indirect ways for solutions (such as relying on hopeless American Jewry) when the answer was always there...

"The main strength of the erev rav is in the gates of Jerusalem, especially at the entrance to the city on the western dividing line" (Kol HaTor)

That's where the Knesset and the Bagatz are...

Two days before the evil plan took off, Kapos, serving the Erev Rav, distracted some 200,000 G-d fearing Jews from marching towards Gush-Katif and dragged them down to modern day S'dom (Tel-Aviv)...
Marching towards Gush Katif is now too late, however, there is one thing that still can be done...YES! Put a siege on a physical and spiritual fortress of Erev Rav: the Knesset.

8/22/2005 5:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Put a seige on the Erev Rav in your heart and mind, which is the misconception that anything has any power in the world besides Hashem Himself!

When the inner citadel of the Erev Rav will be defeated, the outer citadel to which you refer will fall of its own accord.

Biting the stick simply does not accomplish the goal.

8/22/2005 5:32 PM  
Anonymous Eldad said...

Mr. Anonymous, you should read book of Joshua thousand times in a row, and maybe you'll get that the war with Canaanites took place in physical dimension, and not only "in the hearts".

Advocating "spiritual only" perfomance of mitzvot is Klippat Notzrut, that has its source in impure teachings of Moab and Bilaam the Wicked, namely - rejection of turning spiritual potential into action.

8/22/2005 6:02 PM  
Blogger Yehudit Yerushalmi said...

Yasher koach, Eldad!! I do hope you are in Israel.

8/22/2005 6:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The way to combat the inner Erev Rav (and help others to do the same) is with physical mitzvot. Reading tehillim is a physical act with spiritual power. Throwing nails on the road is a physical act rooted in the power of "kochi v'otzem yadi". Hayadayim yadei Esav, vhakol kol Yaakov.


La'inyan: http://pnimi.org.il/medina/aktualya/nidgol.asp

עם ישראל שקוע ומוקף היום ב-ג קליפות טמאות: הרוח הציונית, שהיא רוח של כפירה ומרידה בה', היא הקליפה הקשה ביותר - קליפת "רוח סערה". רוח זו משתקפת כיום בעיקר בכלי התקשורת, המציגים שיח של שכחת ה' ושל כפירה בכל הקדוש והיקר לישראל. תחתיה קיימת קליפת הממסד הקבוע - שעיקרו מערכת המשפט (ועמו מערכת החינוך וכיו"ב) - קליפת "ענן גדול", המחדירה רוח של התבוללות ושוויונות תאוותנית. למטה מזה קיימת קליפת הממסד המתחלף - הממשלה והכנסת - קליפת "אש מתלקחת", האחראית לכל שפיכות הדמים בארץ. בין ג קליפות הטמאות לבין הפרי קיימת "קליפת נגה" - קליפה המעורבת טוב ורע - שהיא קליפת כחות הבטחון. מחד, מסירות הנפש של אנשי הצבא להגן על הארץ ויושביה טובה היא, אך תחושת "כוחי ועוצם ידי עשה לי את החיל הזה" המוטמעת בצבא היא רעה. מסירות הנפש הטובה היא פועל יוצא של סמיכות קליפה זו לפרי הטוב, בני ישראל, עליהם מגן הצבא. הגאוה הרעה היא פועל יוצא של סמיכות קליפה זו ל-ג קליפות הטמאות, שמנטליות הכפירה והחטא שלהן מחדירות גאוה ושכחת ה' לאנשי הצבא. [ולמעונינים להעמיק: מבנה זה, המובא כאן בתמציתיות, מבואר באריכות גדולה במאמר "קליפה קדמה לפרי", ועוד].

8/22/2005 6:35 PM  
Anonymous Eldad said...

Rabbi Akiva, greatest Tanna who ever lived, Gadol both in Nigleh and Nistar (it was him who revealed Sodot Ha'Torah to Rabbi Shimon ben Yochai), was participating in a war against Romans himself.

If Kochot Ha'Bitachon and Tzahal are Klipat Noga as you imply (Klipah that can be used both for good and bad purposes, depending on Kavanah), then I have a good idea - find several determined army officers who will help us to take over the Knesset...The tree itself provides the handle for the axe that chops it down!

Let Bnei Eisav engage in the talks about the differences between "spiritual" and "material" matters...

EVERYTHING THAT JEWS DO ACCORDING TO TORAH IS SPIRITUAL AND L'SHEM SHAMAIM! And fighting those who seek to disposses Jews and give Eretz Yisrael to the Goyim is MILCHEMET MITZVAH!

8/22/2005 7:15 PM  
Anonymous An American for now said...

Eldad and whom else this may concern,

I am so tired of all you self rightous people bashing the hopeless and evil American Jews. Do you not realize how much pain some of us are in because we don't have the means to make aliyah at this time. You don't know what our situation is. How dare you generalize. Some of us 'dispicable' American Jews are G-d fearing people who can only offer money and prayer at this time and not our physical bodies to Eretz Yisroel.

8/22/2005 7:24 PM  
Anonymous josh said...

I pains me much to see so much anger pointed toward Moetzet Yesha. As much as I am frustrated with them, perhaps it is because I expected more than they could deliver. They called on the public several times to come, and we didn't. So unless you went to all, or most of their adventures, then you're just being an armchair general.

Harav Mordechai Eliyahu Shlita's son Harav Shmuel (chief rav of tzfat) has his own plan. But part of it is not to be angry at anyone, except Sharon the rasha.

In htis article, he relates to his father's 'was, won't be' statement. (BTW, his father has still not retracted it, his spokesmen are backtracking slightly, but what it comes down to is 1) better to be an optimistic believer, than a cynic. On my own, I'll add that if you follow a rav in times of good when he tells you something you want to hear, and once he 'messes up' (frankly, I don't even dare you to judge Harav Eliyahu) don't be self-righteous, think he's senile and leave him. I met Harav Mordechia Eliyahu recently. He looks liek a sweet old grandpa, but he moved/walked very swiftly as if in his twenties. In the end of times, we will see how he was right and how he took a chance to explain us something and we just didn't understand that it wasn't only pshat he was talking.

http://www.moriya.org.il/shut/indexid.asp?id=24092

In another article, Harav Shmuel even reminds us that if you come upon a friend and enemy with their donkeys straining under the load, you should first go to the enemy.

Leave the anger at home. The yetzer hara tells you to 'disconnect' from klal yisrael like the haredi leaders, but don't give up on the other Jews just yet. Expose the lies, and don't vote for anyone who took part in this evil plan (if there are even elections in the future - many gedolim say this is the last government of 'the state of Israel'.

8/22/2005 7:32 PM  
Anonymous Eldad said...

American,

Nobody generalizes...

Do I beleive that American Jews are 'evil'? No way!

Do I beleive that there are many of you who are in pain and pray for us and do everything available to support us? Yes, absolutely!

But, do I beleive that Jews in Eretz Yisrael should put their HOPES in American Jewry at this CRITICAL moment of struggle for Jewish destinies in Eretz Yisrael? NO WAY! No matter how much good will many of you may have, I don't beleive that you are capable of helping us FROM THERE at this moment.

8/22/2005 7:38 PM  
Anonymous American said...

Eldad said:
No matter how much good will many of you may have, I don't beleive that you are capable of helping us FROM THERE at this moment.

Dear Eldad,

Yes, you are correct and thank you for clarifying. I am sorry if I offended. This was not my intent.

8/22/2005 8:25 PM  
Blogger Yehudit Yerushalmi said...

Maybe I missed something, but I didn't see anything that bashed American Jews, only that their appealing to Bush or congress is useless, except maybe to gain the individual some merit for trying, but it won't stop this snowball that is already rushing downhill. Nothing will stop it until it crashes against the immovable rock...Jerusalem!

Eldad, maybe we can talk R'Dov into hosting a meeting at his home or some other central location where ideas may be explored.

My American brothers and sisters, I will tell you what I have told my own daughter---forget paying the debts off ("empty out Egypt") and forget saving a nest egg (the coming economic crash is going to wipe everything out anyway), and bury your own personal pride and need to be independent; just come and HaShem will work it all out.

Look at how Am Yisrael is rallying behind the Jews of Gaza and working to meet all their needs. There is no less love waiting for you. If we can trust HaShem to make good come out of all the evil in the world, to create the entire world new daily, how can we not trust Him to provide our daily needs?

8/22/2005 9:47 PM  
Anonymous Eldad said...

Yehudit, first let's wait what Reb Dov would have to say on the matter.

8/22/2005 10:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rav Pinhas Winston: "As Hitnatkut winds down its message is only just gearing up, and unless we heed that message then the transition to Yemos HaMoshiach may end up being far more dramatic than we care to know.
"

http://www.thirtysix.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=537&mode=thread&order=0&thold=0&POSTNUKESID=9ca7d84d3fa19654011ce1452d98e1ff

8/22/2005 10:27 PM  
Anonymous yuri said...

Its an intresting situation we have true daat torah i in the hands of people like eldad- eldad continousouly send us your thoughts on Torah ,geulah, and general .I dont want to raise you up before a fall is pride.But many of our rabbis in whatever mode of servace when it comes to these issues being expressed in this blog as the gaon says in kolhator torah scholars will be struck with blindness- where i live in boston its so intense the blindness- weve stop feeling- we have Torah but weve stop feeling- i agree american jewry as it was during the shoa is impetant-the desires for gashmiut of olam hazeh prevents soul search and true reflection .Our rabbis because they are of the erev rav in this dor actually get power coach from gush katiff falling.This is tragic but chassidus and the gaon in his way told us this would happen in the religious frum world at this time (in general) im not lambasting everyone- Torah is leshem shamayim as is tefillah- rabbis today are not of this path we have to wake up create revolution ourselves and finally realize they are useless in general till now and of the statues quo- as in america our citadel- mashiach geulah leave me alone dont get on my nrerves my expensive tye might ruffle.The gaon says from the straits weell be answered and the gaon says erev rav in its core is a jew who doesnt feel pain about israel the shechina the land but feels pain at the slightest abuse of his covet. As it says in the zohar in the end of days the erev rav will rule israel not just secular but religious as well until theres an awakening from below that creates an awakening from above.

8/22/2005 10:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Theres only one rabbi where i felt he had complete emunah and trust in Hashem as he spoke and that rabbi was rabbi meir kahane- 17 years ago at my highsvhool- 17 years later his Torahs are occuring at dizzying speeds before our blocked hearts and eyes.Why you may ask people didnt consider him a gadol- no one was slandered more then rav kahane- in my city boston not one orthodox shul which i will never enter allowed him to speak him and his son benyamin both martyred had to speak in a conservative shul-I saw rav kahane in boston at this shul 1 week before we killed him-20 people showed up- to hear some goof talk about whether wigs are possul or kosher youll get a convention.The goyim rule us because priorities are backwards were full of wigs and piety and cholent but its for us and our children- many of these children are rebelling against all these forms of orthodoxy because they see how hypicrytical it is- rav kahane had a big mind he was an amazing leader.I dont think the jewish people will have that kind of leader ever again emerge from the frum community-one with emunah chachmah strength fearlessness- were such cowards the efemenite polite rabbi has daat not one who wants to reddeem us from this sickness. Son boston was the first city with gay marriage in 2 rmany reform chappels in my city- the orthodox didnt say a word- this is your leadership am YISRAEL. This is who Hashem gave the Torah to shame shame shame on us for it having come to this. Where good is bad and bad is good.

8/22/2005 11:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To anonymous post before rav kahane was great but the judgement was to much as it says in chassidus one doesnt like when another uncovers your flaws.

8/23/2005 12:37 AM  
Anonymous American said...

Yehudit Yerushalami said:

My American brothers and sisters, I will tell you what I have told my own daughter---forget paying the debts off ("empty out Egypt") and forget saving a nest egg (the coming economic crash is going to wipe everything out anyway), and bury your own personal pride and need to be independent; just come and HaShem will work it all out.

Yehudit Yerushalami,

What does an American Baal Teshuva do if she has teenagers that don't embrace Yiddishkeit? I can't imagine taking children to Israel who don't see the cause the way we do, don't speak Hebrew, and don't even 'GET' the issues that are going on becuase it just doesn't penetrate. I certainly can't abondon my children in the US and I also can't fathom bringing them to a foreign land where the experience may traumatize them.

What do you suggest?

8/23/2005 12:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

its confusing most orthodox forms say its pointless in fighting muncie, boro,park, lot of flat bush,boston , tosh, satmar, as well theres a large heredi expression with this hashkafa as well- but if we dont do anything everyhthing will sink- is this the point yet where Hashem tells moshe at the sea stop praying already your giving me a headache- we desperately need true leaders but how where when are there any in sight how possibly even could one lead against the situation when ads we know washington and its allies are becoming more coarse against israel by the hour with no apparent change in sight- europe is anti semitic to begin with- but what happened to america why is bush putting us in a corner?i dont think sharon is the epitimy of evil today as shmuel elyahu said when he met a day before gush katif was abandoned- i think hes realistic meaning he believes in nature likemost jews over something that rules nature Torah teaches us which is Hashem- this by necessity predicates he must obey bush not Hashem not because hes evil- we shouldnt paint him in a corner that isnt fair- because hes a realist not a dreamer - he might simply realize as most do by now that america rules the medina for 50 years most of her money comes from america- now america-bush is saying do what i say im the strongest power in the world and i give out the paycheck. All you faithful Hashem people out there can say Hashem rules the world but theres a lot of static for now it appears other gods in ramchals jargon or heavy chitzoniut in chasidic metaphor are trying to break the jewish neshamas connection to Hashem and the land. Hashem please help us.

8/23/2005 1:16 AM  
Blogger Yehudit Yerushalmi said...

To the American Ba'al Teshuva: That's a really tough situation and I've been sitting here thinking how to answer you.

It breaks my heart to read the words "a foreign land." Israel is our home. Those of us who are unfortunate emough to remain in the Diaspora are living in "foreign" lands.

If your children are Jewish, how could bringing them to Israel be more harmful to their Jewish souls than continuing to expose them to the impurity of the Diaspora? I've met many, many people here whose connection to Yiddishkeit only burst forth on exposure to the kedusha of this land.

They don't have to understand the cause or the issues. All they have to do is "be" Jews in their own land.

Maybe you should give it (and them) a chance. Or maybe all you can do for now is take a first step in this direction by not thinking about this place as a "foreign" land.

All the best!

8/23/2005 2:43 AM  
Blogger MatzahNacho said...

Speaking only for me here of course, I don't want bill-collectors chasing me to Israel, so I'm going to pay mine off. Thankfully, if all continues to go well, they'll be gone by the end of the year. Between that and having to contemplate abandoning my husband of 20+ years, there are some practical and family issues that need to be dealt with.

In the meantime though, I do think it would be a good idea for those of us outside Israel who plan to come to help stop the eventual "disengagement" from Jerusalem to start networking for possible travel companions, etc.

8/23/2005 2:43 AM  
Anonymous American said...

Yehudit Yerushalami said:

Or maybe all you can do for now is take a first step in this direction by not thinking about this place as a "foreign" land.

Yehudit Yerushalami,

The other day I told my husband that I feel like Israel is my real home not America. My dad served this country and was very patriot but time have changed now. This is a gentile nation and I know where my heart & body belong...Eretz Yisroel.
Unfortunately, I think there is a split amongst the kids. The younger ones would love to make aliyah. I think the teenagers would feel like they were in a foreign land. I know my neshama had been to Israel before. I have unexplained emotional ties to the land and the people even though I have never been there before.

8/23/2005 3:35 AM  
Blogger MatzahNacho said...

American,

It seems my feelings are similar to yours. I like America, and I think in many ways it's better than most anywhere else, but I feel something is missing here, a lack of meaning and purpose.

8/23/2005 5:24 AM  
Blogger AharonBenjamin said...

"American said...
Eldad said:
No matter how much good will many of you may have, I don't beleive that you are capable of helping us FROM THERE at this moment.

Dear Eldad,

Yes, you are correct and thank you for clarifying. I am sorry if I offended. This was not my intent."

I saw on a video once that the Lubavitcher Rebbe told a parade of children at a Lag B'Omer parade (during a time when there was a dangerous time in the Holy Land, R'L) that EVERY mitzvah that the children do (and particularly with ahavas Israel) strengthens the security of all Jews throughout the entire world, wherever they may be. Apparently the Rebbe's opinion on this issue is diffent than both of you who posted above. (Somthing to think about...)

8/23/2005 5:49 AM  
Blogger AharonBenjamin said...

(typing this for the second time):

Josh said:

"In htis article, he relates to his father's 'was, won't be' statement. (BTW, his father has still not retracted it, his spokesmen are backtracking slightly, but what it comes down to is 1) better to be an optimistic believer, than a cynic."

It is very possible that HaRav HaGaon Mordechai Eliyahu Shlita was referring to no other than the nevuah of the Lubavithcher Rebbe "Laltar LeGeulah" and "Hine zeh Moshiach Bah" when he said that "it will not happen" and "this is a nevuah".
http://www.moshiach.ca/gpage1.html2.html

8/23/2005 5:58 AM  
Blogger AharonBenjamin said...

"Anonymous said...
Rav Pinhas Winston: "As Hitnatkut winds down its message is only just gearing up, and unless we heed that message then the transition to Yemos HaMoshiach may end up being far more dramatic than we care to know."

"These days (that we are currently living in) are the Yemos HaMoshiach" (Lubavitcher Rebbe Kislev 5752-1992)(Sefer HaSichos)

8/23/2005 6:03 AM  
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8/23/2005 6:35 AM  
Blogger AharonBenjamin said...

"Harav Mordechai Eliyahu Shlita's son Harav Shmuel (chief rav of tzfat) has his own plan. But part of it is not to be angry at anyone, except Sharon the rasha. "

The Baal Shem Tov, may the mentioning of the name of the righteous be for a blessing, taught that if by Divine Providence one witnesses a fault in someone else, then there is a message here from HaShem, that some of this blemish also is found within the one who is looking (although perhaps more subtly).

Our Sages have taught "that all of Israel are intermixed one with the other". So, I want to suggest that it may be incumbant upon us to ask ourselves at this time, how we (each one must ask himSELF)how he/she may be similar to Ariel Sharon, who is now the target of so much critisizm and derision (and I am not saying that it may not be justified...).

In the Mitzvah of remembering and erasing Amalek, in the sefer Derech Mitvothecha of the Tzemach Tzedeck, p.198 - it is taught that to wipe out the "zera Amalek" means that we are to wipe out the aspect of Amalek that has been "implanted/zaruah" within the souls of Israel, (I.e. within ourselves).

Perhaps if we are able to rectify the aspect of Ariel Sharon (may HaShem help him to immediately do teshuva among all of Israel) within ourselves, then this will be the impetus, the iteruta deletatah (the arousal from below) that will reciprocate an itarusa deleilah (arousal from above) so that HaShem will "remove the spirit of impurity from the Earth - so that ALL Men will serve Him with one purpose.

To me it seems that the core of the mistake, that caused Prime Minister Sharon to become transformed from a mighty warrior fighting the wars of Israel (for Israel!) into a tool of oppresion against (atleast part of Israel) R"L - is prikas ol malchus shamaiim. Perhaps HaShem is showing us here, that EVEN the best of men, with the greatest accomplishments, can become the next minute the very opposite, if they do not accept the yoke of Heaven. Is this not what happened to King Saul?

In our days, acceptance of the yoke of Heaven, must also include acceptance of the Lubavitcher Rebbe as the extention of Moshe Rabbeinu in our Generation and as the Prophet of our generation - as the Rebbe directed us to publicize. The Rambam explains at length, hilchos yesodei haTorah 7-10 that all must obey a navi emes. This is one of the foundations of our holy Torah.

May HaShem help each one of us to look and see how we can begin to fix these mistakes within ourselves, in our own lives where HaShem grants us bechira and an ability to make a real change for the entire world as well, be'H.

This may be why the Rebbe said at the final Kinus HaShluchim 5752 that "Our final remaining shlichus is to receive the face of our Righteous Messiah in actuality". As is is Moshe Rabbeinu (and the extention of Moshe in every genreation - Zohar) who bind Israel with HaKadosh Baruch Hu (as we learned in last weeks parsha as well - Deuteronomy 5:25,6). May HaShem grant us to accept the yoke of Heaven fully with simcha ve'tuv levav, and may we all be written and sealed for a good and sweet new year with openly revealed goodness and blessing, among all of Israel and the Chassidim among the Nations. Amen.

8/23/2005 6:45 AM  
Anonymous American said...

MatzahNacho said:

American,

It seems my feelings are similar to yours. I like America, and I think in many ways it's better than most anywhere else, but I feel something is missing here, a lack of meaning and purpose.

MatzahNacho,
Can you put your e-mail addr. on your blog?

AharonBenjamin,

Great comments!

8/23/2005 7:05 AM  
Anonymous yoav said...

Aharon Benjamin my name is david thankyou for writing the rebbes words constructively on this blog for all to hear- its important for all of us-jew or gentile who wants to really know whats behind the curtain behind the scenes-B"H the curtain will open soon. Shalom and the rebbes prophecy will no longer be prophecy but reality.

8/23/2005 9:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not everyone who posts or reads here is a "believer" in the Lubavitcher Rebbe.

8/23/2005 11:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your assertion that Bush is forcing this disengagement on Israel in wholly inaccurate.

[The Gaza Withdrawal:] A Democracy Killing Itself
by Daniel Pipes
USA Today
August 15, 2005
http://www.danielpipes.org/article/2861

The Israeli government's removal of its own citizens from Gaza ranks as one of the worst errors ever made by a democracy.

This step is the worse for being self-imposed, not the result of pressure from Washington. When the Bush administration first heard in December 2003 that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon had unilaterally decided to pull all soldiers and civilians from Gaza, it responded coolly (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2003/12/print/20031218-2.html#3). Months of persuasion were needed to get the White House to embrace the initiative.

The harm will be three-fold: within Israel, in relations with the Palestinians, and internationally.

Sharon won the prime ministry in early 2003 by electorally crushing an opponent who espoused unilateral withdrawal from Gaza. Sharon declared back then: "A unilateral withdrawal is not a recipe for peace. It is a recipe for war." For unknown reasons, in late 2003 he adopted his opponent's policy of leaving Gaza, thereby reneging on his promises, betraying his supporters, and inflicting lasting damage on Israeli public life.

To Palestinian rejectionists, an Israeli retreat under fire sends an unambiguous signal: Terrorism works. Just as the Israeli departure from Lebanon five years earlier provoked new violence, so too will fleeing Gaza. Palestinians ignore all the verbiage about "disengagement" and see it for what it really is, an Israeli retreat under fire. Indeed, Palestinian leaders have already broadcast their intent to deploy Gaza-like aggression to pry the West Bank and Jerusalem from Israeli control. Should that campaign succeed, Haifa and Tel Aviv are next, after which Israel itself disappears.

The Sharon government has also defaulted on its obligations to its allies in the war on terror. As other states, such as Great Britain, finally show signs of getting more serious about counterterrorism, Israel's politicians release hundreds of convicted terrorists and retreat under fire from Gaza, encouraging more terrorism.

Israel's mistakes are not unique for a democracy – French appeasement of Germany in the 1930s or American incrementalism in Vietnam come to mind – but none other jeopardized the very existence of a people.

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Sometimes it is okay not to have any answers (and it is patently obvious that no one really does). Our response should be only to return to Ha Kadosh Barachu in ALL OF US! Thats all.

8/23/2005 3:55 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Dear Anonymous:

Just one statement before I am off to daven Mincha. Again, I do not believe any of Gog's defenders for one second. He is in a state of glee from this, for it helps him re-ignite his Road Map to Hell. He has affirmed this in all recent interviews. Perhaps his father's reversal on his "No new taxes" pledge is a case in point. When his father did not keep his promise on a infinitely more trivial issue than Disengagement, he was condemned to lose his second term. Gaza disengagement without a bonafide Peace Treaty is a Crime against Humanity. Of course in the eyes of Mankind, We Jews are not human. In their eyes we are half-Vulcan. We, in their belief system, have signed a deal with G-d to make such deals in order to make the world safer for prosperity.

In 2003 and 200r, Gog, had good reason to pretend that it was Sharon's idea, and that he was reticent about supporting it. He needed the votes of at least 10 million Fundamentalist Christians for his Second term which, by the way, he has dedicated to serving the princes of the New World Order. He no longer needs the votes of these Fundamentalists. He can now be more honest about what he has wanted all along. The "Skull in Bones" folks stacked the deck. Both Kerry and Bush were members of that famous club of grave robbers. Gog was their favorite, though. At least he wanted to try to preserve Western Civilization, that is, whatever is left of it.

I am sorry, but for some reason some good investigative work by Mr. Pipes is needed on this matter. A PM of any country does not go out of his way to destroy his political party and the very existence of his country without some threat over him.

8/23/2005 7:15 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

In addition to the above the Masonic symbol on the back of the dollar bill is the pyramid with the eye of Isis at the top. The pyramid represents Man's noble efforts to build civilization under G-d. The eye is of pagan origin. (The pyramid is also of pagan origin, stolen from Nimrod when Esau killed him. Nimrod built a tower to war with G-d. Esau decided that he would work with the Eibishter for 3300 years, until the 33rd level of purity.) The Latin underneath the pyramid, Novus Ordo Seclorum, is Esauian for "New World Order". Yet, mysteriously, the pyramid is cut off exactly at the 2/3 mark. If Esau were serious about serving G-d for all the right reasons to the 49th level of purity, the pyramid would have a pointed top. Yet, Esau is content to serve G-d to 2/3 of the way to the 49th level, the 32 2/3 level of purity. The 33rd level is reserved for Gog and his buddies and does not have much to do with G-d. That 33rd level for Edom is stained with the stench of a dying world, with forces of impurity brought into the Land of the Living. It has the sweet smell of fossil fuels, the drawing of the powers of death from someone else's skull and bones, for Edom has no inkling how to take Man to the next level. The glory that is in glory (hod that is in hod) does not really belong to G-d, he argues, "for did not the princes of Edom build this world." "It is OURS to rule.", he howls into the wilderness around Batzrah. But as is promised to us in Yishayahu 34. "The rivers (around Batzrah) will be turned into tar and its soil into sulfur, and the land will become burning tar. Night and day it will not be extinguished. The smoke (of the tar fires) will ascend forever." Of course, and why will G-d do this? The previous verse tells us. "It is a day of vengence for the L-rd, a year of recompense for Tzion's cause." May G-d make it so very, very soon!!!

By the way, G-d willing, over the weekend the world price of crude oil hit $67 a barrel. May it contiue to rise, bli ayin hara, now that the Sunnis have rejected the Iraqi constitution.

8/23/2005 8:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DANIEL PIPES HAS BEEN THOROUGHLY DISCREDITED. NO ONE SHOULD BELiEVE A THING HE SAYS.

8/23/2005 8:55 PM  
Blogger Yehudit Yerushalmi said...

Right on, R'Dov. You've hit it smack on!

See my latest blog http://jewishjihad.blogspot.com/2005/08/manhigut-yehudits-failed-vision.html

8/23/2005 9:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know the end is intrinisticaly coming when rational scholars in Israel out of pain and sad conclusion are taking the possukim in ovadia literally- maybe the rebbe was wrong about all the nations serving Hashem europe you think they like jews in general, america is pagan today for anyone intrested,hamas all they want is to kill- maybe there is a day of wrath beyond our reckoning maybe the naiim yoel, yishayah, ovadia our on to something well beyond our intellect rationalizations torah knowledge rightousness or wickidness something we cant fathom.

8/23/2005 10:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah, "maybe the rebbe was wrong" what a novel idea.

8/23/2005 10:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After all, even Moshe Rabbeinu erred.

8/23/2005 10:15 PM  
Anonymous Yaakov Nathan said...

Someone who can say "Moshe Rabbeinu erred" lacks all understanding of the nature of the "error" of a tzaddik of the level of Moshe Rabbeinu, a"h. Nebach.

As for you, Dov bar Leib -- I am perplexed how someone who seems so facile in the avenues of Torah thinking can give so much credence to axes in the hands of the Chopper?!! Take a deep breath and remind yourself that ein od milvado and that Hashem himself is recreating George W. Bush, along with his ranch, every moment. They have no existence of their own. Do not fear them; do not give them such mamashus that you would get angry at them.!

When my son stubs his toe, he cries out "stupid table!" Decrying the biases of the nochrim, and especially the leaders of nations ("lev melech b'yad Hashem"), is on the same level of perception.

Continue to spread Torah insights, Dov bar Leib, for all else will prove to be passing shadows.

8/24/2005 12:01 AM  
Blogger MatzahNacho said...

Yehudit Yerushalmi, I so hope you will take this comment in the way it's intended. I agree with so much of what you have said here, and I'm interested in checking out your blog, but the word 'jihad' in the title keeps me from clicking on it. I understand that word is supposed to refer to holy war, and in Judaism that would mean something much different than in Islam, but like it or not, that word is pretty much equated with terrorism in the world today. I certainly don't want to tell you what to call your blog, as I wouldn't want anyone putting in their unwanted two cents on what I should call mine, but I doubt I'm the only one uncomfortable with that word these days.

Again, I agree with so much of what you say here, and will continue looking forward to your comments.

8/24/2005 12:06 AM  
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8/24/2005 4:41 AM  
Anonymous SimpleJew www.simplejew.com said...

hi all,

a lot of you point your finger at erev rav, who you claim is responsible for lack of leadership in our days. according to you erev rav's primary characteristic is pragmatism, which doesn't stand in line with pure jewish neshama, right?

in disbelief i watch our "rabbonim" and "community leaders" do/say things that are beyond compehension. most seem to have misplaced their focus of worship. i see mordechais bowing down to hamans, i see aarons rebuilding the golden calf for the sake of "unity", etc, etc...

but what confuses me is that most of these people have come from outstanding families. their parents and grandparents sacrficed everything in order to preserve yiddishkait. they've invested every effort, both time and money, into future generations, so that their children could blossom on Torah and mitvos. nor stalin, nor hitler stood in their way. suffering hardships of wars and dictatorship they still stood strong in their faith. so my question is... how could erev rav come from such families??? and who do we turn to for hallachik authority???

8/24/2005 7:09 AM  
Anonymous Eldad said...

Why Mashiach stays too long?

Contradiction between Mashiach ben Yosef and Mashiach ben David stems from the fact that, task of MB"Y is correction of Zeir Anpin de'Malchut, while task of MB"D is correction of the nucleus of creation: Malchut de'Malchut;

In order to correct Zeir Anpin de'Malchut it is necessary to make TZIMTZUM (restriction, rejection from using) Malchut de'Malchut. This is the reason why Mashiach cannot even begin his work.

If Malchut de'Malchut is activated PREMATURELY - not only that it will not be corrected, but even corrected parts of Zeir Anpin will be damaged and break.

And since Mashiach ben Yosef doesn't accomplish his task in time, by this he "blocks" revelation of MB"D.

Until we don't accomplish task of MB"Y, this will bring more and more suffering to the world and to the Jewish people, and the final result of this process can become - Tikkun through worldwide catastrophy...that's one of the possibilities for revelation of Mashiach ben David.

8/24/2005 8:22 AM  
Blogger AharonBenjamin said...

In the Torah of Chassidus I recall learning that the reason that Lavan pursued after Yaacov Avinu (al pi pnimius hainyaniim) was because there were sublime sparks of holiness that wanted to be elevated by Yaacov Avinu. Is it possible that the gathering of the nations around Jerusalem in the End of Days, as foretold by our prophets may be (according to the pnimius) because the sparks of the Shechinah within them are longing to be elevated and united with HaShem's Holiness/Kedusha?

8/24/2005 9:07 AM  
Blogger AharonBenjamin said...

I learned recently that the Lubavitcher Rebbe wrote in a letter in the year 1969 - see Likutei Sichos 15:492, in which he respectfully wrote to a friend (perhaps someone who was of this hashkafa) that the declaration of the state of Israel as the 'atchalta d'geulah' is a dangerous hashkafa to the extent that the Rebbe said that this has resulted in kobanos, R'L! http://www.otzar770.com

I would be interested in hearing peoples comments about this.

8/24/2005 9:17 AM  
Blogger Yehudit Yerushalmi said...

Matzahnacho---No offense taken and none intended, but anyone who is too squeamish to click on the word "jihad" will not gain much from reading my blog.

8/24/2005 11:33 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Dear all commenters to this blog:

From now on all commenters will need to simply identify a word before publishing your comments. Hopefully, this word identification filter will end the comment spamming on my blog. Please keep commenting!

8/24/2005 9:34 PM  
Blogger Yaakov said...


>http://www.moriya.org.il/shut/indexid.asp?id=24019


HaRav Baruch Shapira, ztvk"l, said ten years ago: "I am a big prophet and head of the 36 hidden tzaddikim, and my prophecy is that in the future they will drive out complete settlements from the Gaza Strip, and immediately afterwards there will be a very strong earthquake in the area of Gaza and a huge wave will come and wash away the whole area into the sea, along with all the Palestinians."

This Rav Shapira is buried on the Mount of Olives, and Harav Mordechai Eliyahu knew him and was at his funeral and said at the funeral that he was the head of the 36 hidden tzaddikim in the world, and the greatest of them. This was confirmed by Rabbi Sheinberg, below.


שאלה:
כהקדמה :הרב מרדכי אליהו שליט"א העיד עליו שהוא ראש לל"ו צדיקים נסתרים שמחזיקים את העולם כולו ואפשר לשאול את הרה"ג הר"מא על כך.
וכך הרב ברוך שפירא אמר לפני 10 שנים: "אני נביא גדול וראש לל"ו צדיקים נסתרים והנבואה שלי היא שימסרו ישובים שלמים מחבל עזה בעתיד ומייד אחר כך תהיה רעידת אדמה חזקה מאוד באזור עזה ויבוא גל ענק וישטוף את כל האזור לים ואת כל הפלשתינאים".
הרב נפטר לפני כשבע שנים וקבור בהר הזיתים והרב מרדכי אליהו מכיר אותו והיה בהלויתו ואמר אז בהלוויה שהוא מל"ו צדיקים נסתרים בעולם והראש והגדול מביניהם ושוב אומר תשאלו את הרב מרדכי אליהו שליט"א אם זה נכון. כי זה נכון ותפרסמו לכולם זה מצווה


תשובה:

שלום רב.

אנכי הצעיר מעיד שהיכרתי את הרב זצוק"ל.
ואכן הרב היה צדיק קדוש וטהור , והעיד עליו מו"ר אליהו שהוא גם אחד מל"ו הצדיקים הנסתרים.

על דבריו של הרב זצוק"ל אין מה להוסיף.... רק לפרסם...!.

כל טוב.

התשובה נענתה על ידי: הרב עזרא שיינברג

8/24/2005 11:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If an earthquake and tsunami wipe out Gaza, will that make Sharon a hero?

8/25/2005 12:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wouldn't Rav Eliyahu have known of this prophecy then and if so, why would he have said the disengagement would not go through?

Would this not also affect Ashdod, Ashkelon and Tel Aviv?

8/25/2005 12:24 AM  
Anonymous Moshe Meir said...

To the previous poster's questions:

1.- Maybe the fact that the disengagement would not happen means that the Jews would get out of the way, then return to recolonize Gaza after the Tsunami did its cleanup job.

2.- Hashem could certainly make the earthquake precisely so that only Gaza is washed out.

These are BIG speculations, people! I don't even know the Rav mentioned in Yaakov Nathan's message.

8/25/2005 1:13 AM  
Blogger Golusman said...

Re: The pyramid on the dollar bill.

Isn't the symbol that there are 13 layers of bricks on the pyramid, symbolizing the 13 colonies that are now united E pluribus unum?

Also, we know that the fault for the disengagement lies not with the eruv rav, or Sharon, or Gog, but in our inability to inspire ourselves to act as Moshe Rabeinu tells us this week "Loleches Bidrachav", to emulate the Boreh Olom. We put much faith in symbols, in golden calves, in inspiring, charismatic leaders, rather than in learning to inspire ourselves. Having more land won't solve the problem, the Iranians have good missile technology as do Syria and our other friends. The answer is, to stop going after other gods so you can stay on the land, otherwise we get kicked off, even by renegades of our own people. toralog.blogspot.com

8/25/2005 5:21 AM  
Blogger AharonBenjamin said...

Maybe Rav Mordechai Eliyahu, is teaching us that the proper attitude is always to be positive in one's approach to a situation while knowning that (as the Rambam writes hakdama lepirush mishnaos) a negative prophecy may be annulled by teshuva (see also sefer Yona).

In my humble opinion, when Rav Mordechai Eliyahu said "this will not happen" and "this is a nevuah" he was most propably refering to the nevuah of the Lubavitcher Rebbe from Shoftim 5751 "LAltar LeGeulah" etc. We were not zoche that this prophecy should be fulfilled in such a manner that would annul the evacuation decree on Gaza, but it seems to me that this is what Rav Mordechai Eliyahu was hoping and praying for - may we merit to see the full fulfillment of this nevuah asap (I.e. Now!)

Ksiva vechasima tova - leshana tova umesuka - tova hanireh vehanigleh!

8/25/2005 11:24 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You know what? I don't even care anymore what he meant or what he thought or why he said it. And you want to know something else? I'm fed up with platitudes from Jews in chu"l who are satisfied with do-nothing preachments because from where they sit they can't do anything anyway.

We are still dying here every day and if we sit and do nothing but say Tehillim, more of us are going to die and the vile government adds insult to that injury by using their police force to impose an autopsy against Jewish law and by no one less than the ghoul of Kfar Kabir which apparently no amount of adverse public sentiment can dislodge---oh G-d! If there were anyplace else to go, I'd get out of this hellhole of insanity!

8/25/2005 11:56 AM  
Anonymous josh said...

I have the option to move back to Canada into a position identical to the one I have now but with more money.

Not in a million years. I've been back to Canada about once every year since. Nice to visit, would not want to live there. I don't really care for tv and hollywood anymore, and a car is just to get from A to B, not to show off to friends. These three things alone alienate me from most of society there who I noticed care about only these three things; what was on tv last night, which movies are coming out this month, and what you're driving.

8/26/2005 12:54 AM  
Blogger AharonBenjamin said...

Anonymous, I do not agree with you when you say that a someone in chul cannot do anything about the situation in Eretz Israel. My reason for disagreeing is firstly because the Lubavitcher Rebbe has taught that a Jew who performs a mitzvah in chul therby strengthens the security of Jews throughout the entire world, including in Eretz Israel, which the Rebbe called "the safest place in the world".

The Rambam also teaches this principle in hilchos teshuva 3:4 saying that with a single mitzvah any person can tilt the entire world to the side of merit causing rescue and salvation to himself and the entire world.

Josh, I think that your desire to stay in the land of Israel is admirable and in accordance with Torah, if your circumstances in your life are conducive to this decision. But, what I do have a problem with is when religious- zionism is made into the most important thing in Judaism, although this hashkafa is not supported by halacha.

Again, my reason for saying this is because this is what I understand the Lubavitcher Rebbe to be saying in some of the sources on this topic that have been brought to my attention. In one of the more extreme one's that I quoted on this blog already, the Rebbe said that making zionism the ikar ((my own interpretation) instead of Moshe Rabbeinu)) is a dangerous thing which has led to korbanos R'L, in the past, may HaShem spare us in the future!

Ksiva vechasima tova - leshana tova umesuka - tova hanireh vehanigleh!

8/26/2005 1:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1 million evacuated as Katrina approaches
Aug 29, 2005, 1:55 GMT

NEW ORLEANS, LA, United States (UPI) -- An estimated 1 million people evacuated New Orleans and surrounding areas as Hurricane Katrina approached the Gulf Coast Sunday.

New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin said 75 percent to 80 percent of residents had been evacuated by Sunday evening. Some 30,000 people were taken to the Louisiana Superdome, reported CNN.

"We are in lockdown mode now," Nagin said on WWL-AM.

Walter S. Maestri, director of the Jefferson Parish Department of Emergency Management, estimated 1 million people had been evacuated. Approximately 1.3 million people live in the New Orleans metro area.

On Sunday evening, the hurricane was about 130 miles south of the mouth of the Mississippi River and expected to hit land early Monday. Conditions were already beginning to deteriorate along portions of the central and northeastern Gulf Coast.

Max Mayfield, director of the National Hurricane Center, told CNN Katrina is the strongest hurricane he has ever seen.

"Not just because of the intensity but the size of this and the area that it`s hitting," he said.

Mayfield said there is a lot of attention on the threat Katrina poses to New Orleans, but western Mississippi is also going to get hit hard.

New Orleans lies below sea level, separated from the Mississippi by huge levees.

Nagin said the hurricane could affect oil prices nationwide.

"We probably handle about 25 of the nation`s domestic oil production," he told CNN.

Copyright 2005 by United Press International

8/29/2005 6:10 AM  
Anonymous SimpleJew said...

hi all,

i also find this "voluntary", yet mandatory evacuation interesting (G-d willing no one will get hurt). Dov do you have any comments?

8/29/2005 12:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Katrina's floodwaters inundating Gulf Coast

New Orleans pumps fail; Mississippi coast like 'hell on earth'

ORLEANS, Louisiana (CNN) -- Parts of New Orleans are flooded with up to six feet of water Monday after some of the pumps that protect the low-lying city failed under the onslaught from Hurricane Katrina, Mayor Ray Nagin said.

Nagin said the Lower 9th Ward of New Orleans, on the east side of the city, was under five to six feet of rising water after three pumps failed.

WGNO reporter Susan Roesgen, who is with the mayor at the Hyatt hotel, said New Orleans police had received more than 100 calls about people in the area trapped on their roofs.

Katrina crashed ashore around 6 a.m. in southeastern Louisiana as a Category 4 storm with winds topping 140 mph. By 11 a.m., winds had fallen to 125 mph as it moved inland.

To the east, Katrina was hammering Biloxi, Gulfport and other communities along Mississippi's Gulf of Mexico beaches, where CNN correspondent Gary Tuchman reported from Gulfport that the storm was "dismantling" the area.

"There is intense damage," Tuchman said. "We are watching the dismantling of a beautiful town."

CNN's Rob Marciano reported extensive damage in Biloxi, east of Pascagoula. "Just a few minutes ago, the wind, surely over 100 mph, peeled roofs off, hurling 6-by-8 sheets of plywood into our parking lot, blowing out the windows of SUVs," he said.

8/29/2005 8:08 PM  

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