Sunday, March 31, 2013

Korean Peninsula Inching Closer to World War

As Seoul approaches the Tzeit Kochavim line by leaving the Twilight Zone by 5775, the entire Korean Peninsula is threatening to go up in flames any hour, day, or week now.  See my post Koreas in the Twilight Zone for more exact details.  Seoul is slightly less than 10 degrees from the Tzeit Kochavim line when the line (101.5 degrees east of Yerushalayim) began to move in 5751 at a pace of 2.5 years per degree.  So to reach the point when Seoul enters Yom SheKulo Shabbat it takes slightly less than 25 years.  That would bring us until 5775.  Yet, the uproar seems to have begun already as if it could blow any day.  It would be Rachmanut if a world war would blow up this year rather than two years from now when Persia will have a full array of nuclear weapons.  Fewer people will die in a war that blows up now rather than in 5775..  If it is delayed until the Shmittah year, over one billion people would die.  And make no mistake without Rachmanut from HaShem, that is where we are headed.  Of course any war involving the Korean Peninsula will quickly bring in Persia and Assad in Syria who are close allies with the nutcase in North Korea.

Also I noticed in Shir HaShirim (Song of Songs) today the following allegorical interpretation of verse 1:5.  Just a few days ago the Qataris, at the Arab Summit, offered to spend a few billion dollars on Public Relations and other tricks to deJudaize the eastern part of Yerushalayaim.  Al Jazeera is headquartered there in Qatar.  So they have a few PR tricks at their disposal.

I am black and beautiful, daughters of Yerushalayim, like the tents of Qeidar, like the draperies of Shlomo.

Make no mistake about it.  Qeidar is Qatar.  So the allegorical interpretation is as follows:

Although I am as black as sin, I am as comely as virtue, oh nations that are destined to come against Yerushalayim.  Although sullied like the (tents of) nation of Qatar, I will be cleansed as the draperies to Whom peace belongs.  

Meaning that at the End of Days, the nations of the world (through the Qataris) will claim that we have no merit to rebuild the Temple of Shlomo, but HaShem will find virtue in us and will dispute their claim.  What is that virtue?  The 6 million who were slaughtered who have now been transformed into the 6 million Jews who are here in Eretz Yisrael today.  Enjoy the rest of the Chag Pesach.


83 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

north korea has been threatening to go all out for decades now. There have been times in the past where it seemed much more likely than it does now. Like the time when they actually did attack a south korean boat about 20 years ago. People thought it was going to be a full war back then. I wouldn't go crazy about anything they say now...they are just talking big but know they are dead if they make a move.

3/31/2013 8:11 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Naftali Bennett was not afraid to stand tall before O, Naftali Bennett said ...

Also: “A Palestinian state is not the right way ... The time has come for new ideas and creativity to solve the Middle East conflict ...a nation does not occupy its own land.”

3/31/2013 9:19 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

What do you make of the name of the Iranian Officer who shot Assad, Mehdi "Jacoby"? (News1) GatewayPundit

3/31/2013 9:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off-topic, but going along with an ongoing theme of this site, common decency, I recommend that each of us read from this site: http://thisongoingwar.blogspot.be/.

This Ongoing War is the blog of Frimet and Arnold Roth, the parents of the innocent child martyr Malki (Malka Chana) Roth. I am sad today that articulate people like these have to struggle to be published and their views promoted, as they would be had common decency not been driven from this world with regard to the Jewish People. For that matter, the entire world would be on our side, and not just when something bad happens to us or we give sacrificially to our enemies.

Devorah from the Mashiach is Coming blog referred her audience by link to this blog's latest post, "30-Mar-13: "To see the NY Times gloss over this travesty of justice is journalism of the most amoral sort" (http://thisongoingwar.blogspot.be/2013/03/30-mar-13-to-see-ny-times-gloss-over.html).

The 'glossing over' part is, of course, an obvious demonstration of the casting off of common decency.

Chag sameach l'chulam,

CDG, Yerushalayim

3/31/2013 1:00 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

Dov, just before going into the chag i saw this story, but it has almost disappeared.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/03/28/putin-orders-surprise-russian-military-exercise-in-black-sea/

I wonder if it was pulled or requested the story take a back seat.

4/01/2013 11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have heard form several sources over the years that the ADHD epidemic(if you can call it that vs expanding drug company education/pressure of doctors and teachers) is yet another simon of the fast approaching change of the teva of world and our minds.
Is this possibly just a case of ADD parents have the antsy bug to jump and make aliyah?

4/02/2013 4:03 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

We are being forewarned about a potential crippling cyber attack on or around April 7 read about it here.

Good Grief ! Just about when I need it the most !!!!

What's going on in Binyamin country?

4/02/2013 7:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Neshama, most of those attacks just make it hard to access a few websites or leave nasty messages if they can figure out the website admin password. Think of it as writing dirty messages over Israeli highway billboards.

It is only recently that the power company is automated enough to be considered shomer shabbat(they had to work shabbat for pekuach nefesh, hospital power, home oxygen generators, etc) though you still see the traditional community shabbat electrical generators in black neighborhoods.

4/02/2013 8:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just caught up on over two weeks of back news. It seems that the US supreme court will almost certainly recognize same sex marriage for homosexuals across all of the US.
Not sure how Noahide court is to work but I assume that they do not need to investigate crimes just take action on two adim, reb Dov has mentioned that sale of human flesh in the shuk and ketubot for two men are simanim of impending destruction.
I am concerned about the unions being recognized here by the misrad hapanim even if not issued here.

4/03/2013 5:32 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

All the Misrad HaPanim can do is to recognize the the various garden variety marriages performed in other legal jurisdictions. Yes, a homosexual marriage performed in the Netherlands or in New York or a civil marriage between a Jew and a non-Jew performed in Cyprus (as long as your money is not locked up in a bank there) is odious, it is not the same as granting ketubot for various types of unions here in the Holy Land. So far we are safe from this.

Yet, the Hermit Kingdom has got to be the wildest bunch of Twilight Zone creatures on the planet. Kim Jong Un has already planned out WW3. The question is: Will the Chinese stop him? China is a business, the biggest business in the world. They have investments in the US.... which makes it bizarre that they have not yet pulled the plug in Kim Jong Un.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gpuimXzka5inwGnL0c9vZsbQ54fw?docId=CNG.4eb43e27607cb9d4be6b952b88ddefeb.01

Maybe all those investments in the US are headed south. So maybe it is time.

4/04/2013 12:03 AM  
Blogger LondonMale said...

Dark matter closer to being identified by scientists?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2303466/Have-scientists-dark-matter--1-3-billion-experiment-space-station-finds-hint-universes-mysterious-building-block.html

4/04/2013 5:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What makes you think North Korea makes any moves without China knowing? China gets a kick out of all this..

4/04/2013 5:37 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Correct, China is the biggest corporation on the planet with over a billion "employees". This would not be happening if China did not view America as a dying investment.

4/04/2013 5:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Iran must be in on this. Maybe they think Israel will be left vulnerable if America gets knocked out of the picture by having a bomb dropped on it. But again, we have to remember the N Koreans have been threatening us for a long time and never did anything. Its created "The Little boy who cried wolf" attitude in people..

4/04/2013 7:06 AM  
Anonymous talmid123 said...

This whole Korea scenario made me think immediately about that Zohar I read about "the nation on the east" or "on the end of the world". Seoul and Sheol sound the same hmmm...

4/04/2013 9:26 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Per the comment of Anonymous 4/03/2013 5:32 PM, I'm curious about whether a Noahide court would at least be able to order an investigation if evidence is insufficient.

CDG, Yerushalayim

4/04/2013 10:53 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

That's the same google article and link I used for my post: KoreanPeninsula

4/04/2013 2:19 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

What the heck! Let's ratchet this tension up even more. The North Koreans now have a nuclear missile with a range of about 1800 miles on a launching pad waiting for Wernher Von Braun to countdown? But as the Tom Lehrer song goes, he was going to do it in Chinese. Lehrer does not mention Korean.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/04/north-korea-warns-military-cleared-to-wage-nuclear-attack/

no sign of Western capitulation talks in sight yet on this one. Everyone today is loaded for bear. Today is the 9th day of the Omer, Gevurah that is in Gevurah...on our way to a 49 day count. The midat HaDin is strongest today (strict judgement). Hunker down.

Let see what is within 1800 miles? Tokyo, Guam...anyplace else? I don't think that Alaska is within range.

4/04/2013 3:36 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

A "blast" from the past: Rav Levi Sa'adia Nachmani zt"l.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=pbWm9pDKLGI

His son is a neighbor of mine.

Deut 32:22 For a fire is kindled in My Anger and will burn in She'oul below. And will consume the earth with her crops and will set fire to the foundations of mountains.

Sorry, enough of the fire and brimstone talk. Mayor Bloomberg tells me that everything is just fine. Happy days are here again! Billionaires like Mayor Bloomberg know what is best for all of us. homosexual marriages and no sugar drinks exceeding 16 ounces!!

4/04/2013 6:15 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

I had no idea the supreme leader of N Korea is some hot head 28 year old kid. Whoaa. Anything on this guy's name?

From a posting on my FB page:

"This is the guy. Kim Jong Un. Supreme Leader of North Korea. 28 years old. He provides Syria and Iran with Nuclear and missile Knowhow. Units of Al Quaida are trained in North Korea together with Hamas and Hizbala.
Israel however is the "cause of all the trouble in this region".
"Are we missing something?"

4/04/2013 7:00 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Gee, Dov, is this your reaction to the goings on at Yaak, Devora and Devash, especially this and some of the comments?

Good Grief Charlie Brown! Why don't the pre-empt both the satellite and nuke factory?

4/04/2013 8:17 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

If Obama and company pre-empt Kim Jong Un, then there will be a war as described in the Zohar VaEira 32 for 3 months. The Koreas are the K'raim (the limbs) that are part of the sacrifice (korban Olah) that will be offered up in Batzrah where the spirit of Edom is totally destroyed. This war would therefore connect the Koreas with Persia taking over the choke point for oil in Southern Iraq, Batzrah. That choke point is the City of Batzrah. We are very close to the End. The question that I have is will this be quick, or will it last until the end of the Shmittah year 5775? The Zohar seems to say that the Korean theater part of this war will only last 3 months, but other battles in this war might not be concluded until the Shmittah year 5775. Medrash Sefer Eliyahu intimates that the final war with Persia will last 3 years, with the climax of the war in the Shmittah year (where Persia is winning the war until the son of Gigi shows up). The other option where Rome would win was lost when we short-circuited the Geulah process in the 7 year Gog W. ben Gog Shmittah cycle. By playing along with Gog to evacuate Gush Katif, we lost the easier opportunity where Rome would have won the war against Persia after already defeating Saddam in Bavel. But even there the British contingent would have been sacrificed in Batzrah.

Yes, an electromagnetic pulse could be what the West is all concerned about since the range of their longest range missile is "only 1800 miles". Of course if I were in Tokyo or Guam, I would be within range. And with the present state of threats, I would be terrified of the fact that it could happen at any minute. I would definitely be getting ready to say Sh'ma.

4/05/2013 3:46 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

And how could we forget. All elevation offerings from the flocks (sheep or goats) are slaughtered on the northern side of the altar. I will have to check the mishnayot in Zevachim to see if this applies to bulls too.

4/05/2013 4:32 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Yes, all Olah (Elevation) offerings are slaughtered to the north of the mizbeach. This seems to apply to all offerings that are Kodesh Kodshim (Most Holy) including Sin, Elevation, Guilt, and Communal Peace offerings. They are all slaughtered in the North.

4/05/2013 4:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

America is going to get hit, I think it's inevitable. There will be devastation but not all of the US will be destroyed. It will derail all of America though. That's when the anti-Semites will come crawling out of their holes. Jews will be blamed when people can't find food or gas. People who are estranged from G-d and have no hope will think they have nothing to live for and will go off the derech like mass killers do now. We haven't even consideredg how G-d has been ratcheting up the natural disasters. Like Isaiah 24: 19,20,21 states:

The earth is broken, broken down, the earth is crumbled in pieces, the earth trembleth and tottereth;

The earth reeleth to and fro like a drunken man, and swayeth to and fro as a lodge; and the transgression thereof is heavy upon it, and it shall fall, and not rise again.

And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD will punish the host of the high heaven on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.

4/05/2013 6:24 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I am sorry for not clarifying that this page of the Zohar in VaEira 32 connects the "war between Edom and a nation at the edge of the world for 3 months" to Yishayahu 34:6 which says that "the L-rd will have a zevach in Batzrah and a great slaughter in the Land of Edom"

I see that the Ba'al Kerry is coming to Yerushalayim/ Binyamin region (Ramallah) next week to shove another convoluted unilateral concession down our throats where we simply give the enemy a chunk of Area B in Yesha. Perhaps the American Sec. of State and his boss need a lesson from the North Koreans to pay more attention to their own security needs in the United States. Sorry to be so blunt.

4/05/2013 9:29 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Well let us ratchet the situation up even more. Apparently, the North Koreans have an even longer range missile which can be launched from a mobile truck. It has a range of 2500 miles, putting Guam easily within accurate range. The founder of the Northern Hermit Kingdom, Kim Il Sung, was born on April 15th? I have no idea how committed his grandbaby is to significant historic dates in family history, but perhaps the Ba'al Kerry should back away from his itinerary in Eretz Yisrael next week. If he wants to "give back" someone else's property, perhaps give back part of North Georgia to the Cherokee nation or something like that. Concentrate on your own freaking bona fide thievery of someone else's property. Leave us alone, and perhaps the North Korean threats will dissipate.

4/05/2013 10:14 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

My Sitemeter crashed for the last time. I have switched to Statcounter. I will have to update it with stats from visits going back years ago later. too close to Shabbat. Shabbat Shalom. Some have a minhag of putting a "parnassah" key in the Challah for this Shabbat: a segulah for parnassah for this coming year since grain is judged on Pesach. Don't ask me about all the details of this segulah.

4/05/2013 5:07 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

just a quick note: I have decided to keep Sitemeter along with Statcounter, which I just added. So both are working for now because they supply different types of information about visits to this site, both types being valuable input for me. Yet, if history is a guide, Sitemeter will crash and disappear from time to time on a regular basis. Sitemeter is like the Cheshire cat from Alice in Wonderland. It is there one day and gone the next. Don't worry. Your personal information is yours alone. I don't have names or addresses of anyone visiting this site from either of these gatherers of information. I do learn when this blog is referred to by other sites. For instance, lo and behold, tonight I started to receive a ton of traffic from G-dlike Productions. So I go there to find out why.

In the news, North Korea is expelling foreign embassy personnel now. And several defense experts are quietly admitting that North Korea has missiles that can reach the West Coast of the US, not just the mobile missile launchers that can hit Guam. The Wunderkind was raised believing that he is a god, in the Communist secular sense, and that both daddy and granddaddy were gods too when they were alive. He never lived in a world where he was not being groomed to take control of the existing system. He never had to experience the "revolution" firsthand, and never was there a time in his life where he was not being groomed to take control. In short, he has lived in the "synthesis" stage of his Communist revolution all of his life. In short, he never lived a moment where he was out of power, when Communism is in the Thesis mode (with capitalism in control) or during the revolution when the anti-thesis mode is in operation. I am not sure that the Communists in all of their wicked designs every envisioned a hereditary system where the grandchildren of the new ruling elites continue to rule. We are in uncharted waters.

4/07/2013 2:25 AM  
Anonymous mkf said...

very interesting comment Dov about the leader of NK..never in a moment where he wasn't in power...being groomed and waiting...

Also, our friend in the north is still there...He was correct of course in his analysis...bringing him down will bring chaos on the Middle East.

4/07/2013 2:43 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BS"D

Could the Zohar's "and wars will be awakened in the world on the North side, and two kings will fall in these wars..." be referring to NK?

Whatever the situation G-d wants Teshuva and Teshuva M'Ahava is preferred. If you read these blogs lets try to do our part to bring our fellow Jews/non-Jews to an awareness of Hashem and a recognition of His greatness. Spread Emuna, Torah, Mitzvot, Tefilla however you can.

4/07/2013 10:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting the focus has been taken off of Iran since NK started the threats. The media has total control of the situation when you think about it. Amazing how there's different opinions about NK's missile capabilities. I personally think Israel is being setup from all sides.

4/07/2013 4:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

North Korea may be preparing to test missile, South Korea says

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/04/07/south-korea-says-north-may-be-preparing-to-test-missile/#ixzz2PmmG0aWD

How can you possibly know if it's a test or a real launch? So if SK can determine a test, they should know every move NK is going to make. Thus this tells us SK knows & more then likely knew about this situation for some time.

4/07/2013 5:01 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

According to international agreement, Term for all pregnancies is reached at the end of 37 weeks. That would take us exactly to Hey B'Iyar (5th Iyar, or Yom Atzamot) next Sunday night and Monday. This year because of Yom HaZikaron and so that sound equipment for Memorial Day not being set up on Shabbat, both Yom HaZikaron and Yom Atzamot have been pushed forward one day. But Hey B'Iyar exactly one month before Shavuot is the accepted date for the Israeli Independence Day or the Day of the Ingathering of the Dry Bones (Ezekiel 37). That day, Hey B'Iyar is the beginning of week 38, and the pregnancy that began last Tisha B'Av will have officially reached "Term". The 39th week is over by Lag B'Omer, and the 40th week is over by the 25th of Iyar.

Hey B'Iyar this year happens to be April 15th, the Eternal Supreme Leader of N. Korea's birthday. Granddaddy Kim Il Sung was born on April 15th, 1912. I happen to recollect that the Titanic sank on the very day of the former Supreme Leader's birth?? Wow, yes the Titanic sank to the bottom of the North Atlantic as the former Supreme Leader of N. Korea, who started the Korean War, was appearing from his mother's womb. Happy Birthday to Kim Il Sung. I have no idea if his grandbabe has any plans for celebrating. But all foreign service personnel from countries who actually have embassies in North Korea are being requested to leave by this coming Thursday evening. If they stay past this coming April 11th, they are staying at their own risk. And of course, Israel will be blamed for something in this war since it is intricately tied to both Assad and Iran.

4/07/2013 5:04 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Nah, there seems to be something very different this time. North Korea has requested that foreign embassy personnel leave its borders for their own safety..before the "test" of the missile. If this were just a "test", there would be no need to ask foreigners to leave. The "test" would be performed with the foreign embassy personnel in the country because a test by itself is not a threat. It is a form a military preparedness. What am I missing here?

4/07/2013 5:22 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I forgot to point out that "term" is at the end of 37 weeks, but the average pregnancy lasts either 39 or 40 weeks, depending on whom you ask.

4/07/2013 5:35 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

And the US just caved by not doing its own scheduled long range missile test in California. Chuck "Neville Chamberlain" Hagel has found another enemy to surrender to besides Islam. I am not sure how SuperGrandson in North Korea will interpret this:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/04/06/report-defense-sec-hagel-delays-missile-test-to-avoid-further-tension-with-north-korea/comment-page-2/?corder#comments

But I can guarantee this: In no way will the peace overture to SuperGrandson defuse what SuperGrandson has in mind. They are probably holding an official "laughing pow-wow" in Pyongyang to laugh at the cowardice of Obamanation's chosen Defense Secretary and are eagerly planning their next move. Way to go 70% of American Jews! You have been the victim of so much evil over the last 2000 years that you have forgotten how to recognize it.

4/07/2013 7:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Will be interesting to see if NK backs down from this point. If he backs down, he looks like a fool, not sure he will go that route. I'm of the opinion he has Russia,China, & Iran backing him. I believe the anointed one is among us & they know it. Matter of time before the rebuilding of the Temple.

4/07/2013 7:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I live in America, Obama is accomplishing the goal of destroying within. Notice how Kerry is spending a large amount of time in the middle east? Working on that peace process with the PA. I'm of the opinion, Hashem will allow the PA the borders of 67 but, give Temple Mount management over to Jewish control. This will allow the rebuilding to take place.

4/07/2013 7:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is interesting is that the norks DO have a satellite in orbit albeit officially malfunctioning per NORAD. While I do not belivethey have perfected a miniaturized non spherical implosion weapon, much less one light enough to have been sent into orbit. To be an effective EMP device they would really need a megaton range device like in the starfish prime test that damaged some telephones in Hawaii.
In any case here is the TLE orbital descriptor which can be used with one of the many computer and phone based satellite tracking apps. Portable electronics (not plugged in for charging) are not at much risk even under a strong electromagnetic field, damage will be to devices which are attached to a wire.

Two Line Element Set (TLE):

1 39026U 12072A 13097.51280244 .00005249 00000-0 31751-3 0 3789
2 39026 097.3859 148.2994 0059773 132.8284 227.7995 15.09543050 17572

4/07/2013 7:42 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

No, the PA is not about to accept any deal which does not leave them with the Temple Mount and what they view as being Al Quds.

They would accept a unilateral concession on the part of Israel: a big chunk of Area B (that which is in Israeli military control but PA civilian control). Sadly Bibi is clueless about the times that we are in and will comply if the Ba'al Kerry demands it.

4/07/2013 7:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's sad Hashem has to deal out more punishment again. Just like a father does, if you choose not to listen, punishment is not far behind. If only the people of the earth would commit to truth & righteousness, unfortunately Hashem is getting ready to lay the law down once more.

4/07/2013 7:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Christianity & Islam are getting ready to do battle, Christians are becoming increasingly upset and are starting to fight back. This will take place so the rebuilding of the Temple can take place. It will be built during times of trouble. They won't even realize what they are fighting about. The people of the world picking up arms to fight a battle for the elite who sit behind closed doors and watch. Only if people would open their minds & hearts to truth.

4/07/2013 8:05 PM  
Blogger Klishlishi said...

The Edomite West may well have lost its right to exist by allowing same-sex marriage contracts, as the Talmud states.

"Even though they are atheists, the Soviets have a certain zechus by outlawing homosexuality" (R.Avigdor Miller 1981), And today that zechus may actually devolve on the North Koreans, one of the few countries who still ban the toeivah!

As the Amshinover told the Japanese: "Please don't hand us over to the Germans: we Jews are actually Asians just like you!". We must be ready for a global power shift to the East. Torah Jewry will actually thrive under Asiatics, who are enthralled with the perception that Jews have some special religious secret to account for their seeming global success despite their tiny numbers.

If we are found wanting by Hashem & Moshiach is delayed for another century, we may have to go in to a 5th Golus - Golus Sin - "The Chinese Exile" - the exile that theoretically would have no end and which could never be broken, as Rabbi David Katz writes here
http://soulmazal.blogspot.co.il/2011/12/galus-china-welcome.html

4/07/2013 9:42 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Klishlishi: I believe that quote about being Asians was from Rav Chaim Leib Shmuelevitz of the Mir Yeshivah upon arriving with his yeshivah in Kobe, Japan, running away from the Nazi advance on Belarus and Lithuania. The Japanese had no idea why their allies in Germany hated Jews. So that was Rav Shmuelevitz's explanation...and it worked. The Japanese accepted the answer, and later allowed the yeshivah to set up residence in Shanghai away from the halakhic problems of being in the Twilight Zone (2 days of Shabbat and of continuous fasting on Yom Kippur for instance).

Yet, I knew that the Bnai Keturah founded Hinduism, choosing the highest Abraham (Brahmin) caste for their own. So they made it as far as Hodu (India). I had not heard that they made it to China too. Buddhism evolved out of Hinduism with no assistance from Jews or descendants of Avraham, unless you have another book explaining otherwise. I like your reference to books. And Galut Sin (China)? really? Rav Chaim Vital wrote about Galut Yishmael, but Galut Sin?

4/07/2013 10:07 PM  
Blogger Klishlishi said...

http://www.jewishpressclassifieds.com/printArticle.cfm?contentid=25232

"The Germans met with the Japanese officials and ordered the annihilation of the Jewish refugees in either of the two following manners: 'Send the Jewish refugees back to Germany,' the Nazis said, 'and we will take care of the problem . . . or build your own death camps.'

"How did we come to know of the above decree? The Japanese officials called the three Shanghai rabbis to a meeting . . . Rabbi Meir Ashkenazi, zt"l, known for 40 years as the Shanghai Rav; Rabbi Chaim Shmulevitz, zt"l, the Rosh Yeshiva of Mir; and last but not least, the prestigious Amshinover Rebbe, zt"l.

"The Japanese officials apprised the three rabbis of the edict handed down by the Germans. Before the rabbis even had time to absorb this shocking news, one of the Japanese generals jumped up and called out, 'Why does Hitler hate you Jews so much?'

"There was, of course, an interpreter in attendance. Mr. Chanin, a Jew who was born and lived in Japan had the honor of translating the Amshinover Rebbe's answer.

"Amshinover Rebbe: 'Esteemed General, the Germans hate us because we are Asians and not part of the pure Aryan race.'

"The General: 'We are also Asians. Do they hate us too?'

"The Rebbe: 'Yes, my dear General. Secretly, they hate you, as well. You are not of their mold.'

"The General (with a bang on the table): 'If this is the case, we will ignore Germany's demand. You will remain with us in Shanghai, unhampered.'

4/07/2013 11:16 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Klishlishi: I will accept your version until I find mine which I have also seen in print.

I ran into this years ago regarding another famous story regarding Joe Kennedy, yemach shmo. He was aboard a ship, and Atlantic Ocean liner, and several observant Jews were davening mincha in a room that he had rented in first class. Rav Michael Dov-bear Weissmandel was purportedly davening when Joe walked in and cursed Rav Weissmandel that he will bury his children. All of Rav Weissmandel's children had perished in the Shoah prior to this. So the curse bounced off him and slapped Joe in the face. And now recently I found out that it was not Rav Weissmandel who was cursed out by Joe Kennedy, yemach shmo, but another Rav.

But the version where it was Rav Shmuelevitz who originally said that "We are Asians." when they first arrived in Kobe before going to Shanghai, I have also seen in print. I have a memory for these things. But as I said before, I like the books that you advise to read. The only way that there will be a Galut Sin is if we accept that Sin is now at least run by the Bnai Magog when the Mongols finally conquered China over 800 years ago. And then Gog would come from China...possibly. Yet, Genghis Khan came close to Eretz Yisrael, I think, but never conquered here. The Shoresh of Genghis is also Gog, but he is not from Edom. Do you have any sources for a Galut Sin?? or a Galut of the Bnai Keturah (not including Yishmael)? I don't believe that there are any sources for this, especially since ancient Sin was a Canaanite nation. One could say that they are enslaved by a concept from Karl Marx all 1.3 billion of them.

4/08/2013 12:23 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I want to make it clear that I am only referring to Joe Kennedy Sr. There is no reason to assume that any of his sons were anti-Semites. As a matter of fact, Robert (Bobby) Kennedy was about as decent as human beings come.

4/08/2013 12:37 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

In the meantime things are collapsing around Assad. He is moving thousands to tens of thousands of his best soldiers to defend his Home Front, Damascus. And Al Qaeda is moving into the vacuum causing problems for UN peacekeeping troops in the Golan. As vile as Assad was, he and his father have basically kept the cease-fire since the Yom Kippur War, at least on the Syrian front in the Golan. But Assad's regime seems to be disintegrating more quickly these days as Al Qaeda in Syria, Al Nusra Front, fills in the vacuum to replace Assad's troops along both the Israeli and Jordanian borders. Over 6000 Syrians died in March. So the death toll in Syria is increasing now. When does it collapse? Well now Al Nusra is getting advanced weapons from the Saudis via the Balkans, and the Qataris don't like it, for their own reasons. What a mess.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/166860#.UWHwgqJTCAk

4/08/2013 1:34 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Klishlishi: I think it happened twice. once when the Mir entered Kobe as a port of entry into Japan, Rav Shmuelevitz was likely questioned about why he was running away from the Nazis with his yeshivah. That would have been in 1940 or early 1941. Later on after moving to Shanghai, Hitler, yemach shmo, had instituted the Final Solution in 1942. At that time there was pressure from the Germans on their ally, Japan, to also implement the Final Solution. Prior to that, Jews in Europe and in Shanghai had been placed into ghettos...even though the Shanghai ghetto was not a prison camp. Then the Japanese rulers in Shanghai had the conversation again with the Rabbeim in Shanghai. If the answer, "We are Asians" had worked in Kobe, for the Mir, at the port of entry, there was no reason to assume that the same answer would not work a 2nd time when the Germans were trying to force the Japanese to implement the Final Solution on the entire community in Shanghai. It must have worked both times.

I have heard that the Rav that cursed Joe Kennedy Sr. was actually Rav Aharon Kotler, but Chabadnicks insist it was the Friediger Rebbe (aka Rav Yosef Yitzchak, Rebbe HaKodem)

4/08/2013 2:56 AM  
Anonymous Mochin Rechavim said...

It was not the Friediker Rebbe, it was Rabbi Jacobson's father who was fleeing on the ship from Europe during WWII w/ bouchorim and Kennedy was complaining that their "praying" was distracting on the ship during Rosh Hashanah. The Friediker Rebbe came to America in Adar.

4/08/2013 4:04 AM  
Anonymous Mochin Rechavim said...

If it was R' Kolter who arrived in America in 1941, it would conflict with the 1938 trip that Kennedy made to the UK unless he stayed there for 2 years. The Rabbi from the story was a Lubavitcher Rabbi and his son's are very well known lecturers, even in Misnagdish circles.

4/08/2013 4:08 AM  
Blogger LondonMale said...

To Dov, in the light of Klishlishi's comments on Galut Sin, have you read "The Coming Revolution" by Zamir Cohen?

Pages 272-275 talk about how the wisdom of the children of Avraham and Keturah may well have reached China as well as India. This includes acupressure points which are similar or even the same as points where pressure is applied by Tefillin straps, though the author is keen to point out that the knowledge taken to the East has become tainted by idol worshipping practices and so is not permitted to Jews...I guess this relates to the current controversies on the practice of Yoga and Tai Chi etc by some Jews?

There too exist fascinating suggestions on the possibility that one of the lost tribes made it's way to ancient Japan; similarities between Hebrew and Japanese writing the Tefillin like objects worn on the head by Japanese priests, a Zion festival in Japan and the existence of a Mountain named Moriah in Japan; further footage here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLc30VSPdgY

4/08/2013 4:20 AM  
Blogger LondonMale said...

A further comment.

The national flower of South Korea is The Rose of Sharon. According to Wikipedia, this flower is fund in English King James Bibles when they translate the Song of Solomon 2:1. The national flower of South Korea has a scientific name of "Hibiscus Syriacus", though is unlikely to be the same flower as talked about by King Solomon.

Also here is a link to YNet article which says 49 South million Koreans study Talmud.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4065672,00.html

4/08/2013 7:27 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Well the Ba'al Kerry has been very busy here. Apparently he is making unilateral concessions to he PA at Israel's expense. He is letting the PA know that not only will Israel give up large chunks of Area B under joint Israeli/ PA control to Abbas but also portions of Area C which are 100% under Israeli control!! In addition, Israel would release an unspecified number of terrorists being held in Israeli jails. All this would occur just to jumpstart moribund "piece talks":

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/166872#.UWJwP6JTCAk

If in the next two weeks you want to ask G-d why He is allowing a major world war to take place (possibly nuclear), you can remember the unmitigated gall of the American Sec. of State in making these outlandish concessions at our expense....so that we can return to the Auschwitz borders in honor of Shoah Remembrance Day. which reminds me, why is Kerry spending a full 2 days here in Israel on the eve of a possible world war in Korea?? Are they, he and his boss, really that wicked to be a bully against us at the expense of their own lives?

4/08/2013 10:38 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

On the noble mission of the Ba'al Kerry to extricate or extract parts of Eretz Yisrael from the nation of Yisrael to give it as a gift to the children of Ammon and Moav, another happenstance accident has occurred. He is the Ba'al Kerry (happenstance) after all. The Midrate on the dollar has plunged below 3.60. These things go up and down from day to day, but the long range trend is now forever down...so it seems. Today is especially significant. 3.600 was a redline for the Bank of Israel in the past. It might not be such a good thing for Stanley Fisher, before he retires, to buy more stock in Apple Computer to buttress up the dollar because before we know it, the dollar might be trading at 3.0 shekels to the dollar. As Yul Brenner told Moshe in DeMille's version of the Ten Commandments, "Noble task."

4/08/2013 1:49 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Apparently the Bank of Israel has inserted into their computer software an automatic "buy" on dollars when the rate plunges below 3.60. Well BOI just did that with the expected result.

4/08/2013 2:16 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

I just read he Haaretz article on Fischer and the current drop in the shekel. But I'm confused. Is it saying that because of our newly acquired gas supplies and the market equasions, the shekel will in the future remain at a lower rate visavis the dollar ?

4/08/2013 3:32 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

@Neshama:

When the ratio of dollars to shekels drops like you see above, that means the shekel is STRONGER than before; it takes fewer shekels to make a dollar, so the buying power of the dollar is less. What Israel is doing is keeping the shekel weaker and the dollar stronger - it seems, because we are still dependent on America.

Eventually we won't be able to continue to stave off the inevitable, and the shekel may well become stronger than the dollar. That will mean we can buy American goods for really, really cheap - if we so choose.

Dov, please feel free to correct any misstatements here.

CDG, Yerushalayim

4/08/2013 8:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reb Dov,
I remember being in a shiur with Rabbi Heber where he said that there are some hints in the mesora that we could under some circumstances not get the geula into the 6th milenium. It concerns me that with the time wiggle room such as how we get billions of years per the Ramban out of the six days of creation. Another problem is like the mitzrym were supposed to be influenced by us as we served and convert and join us in a big kidush Hashem at Har Sinai.
With this talk of galut sin I wonder can we both as Jews and as the human race end up like the mitzrym and miss the mark so badly we drop below the 49th level of tuma forever, skip geula, and just continue to linger as long as humans last bderech teva as a species on through to the heat death of the universe in a few billion years AKA reduced tohu ubohou perhaps like the previous gilgulim of the universe.

4/08/2013 9:43 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

stressed for time tonight. will answer tomorrow, G-d willing, bli neder. The lower the shekel to dollar rate, the more valueless the dollar is becoming because of a massive printing scheme being engineered by the US Federal Reserve to pay the annual American deficit which has been over 1 trillion dollars/year starting in 2008 in the last year of Gog ben Gog Bush Jr.'s Presidency.

4/09/2013 12:26 AM  
Anonymous Mochin Rechavim said...

The Lubavitcher Rebbe more than any leader in history spoke about Moshiach and taught us about Moshiach. Never in history did a leader compile the massive sources to print to the masses teaching from Torah B'Ksav, Sh'Baal Pe, Chazal, Rishonim, Chassidic and Luthianian leader etc. Sefer Yalkut Geulah U'Moshiach is unlike any other compilation in history.

Yet-

You rarely source the Lubavitcher Rebbe. Sefer HaSichos 5751 Parshas Tazria-Metzora. The answer is plain as day and we dont need to devise our own interpretations when we have the Nasi HaDor explaining it.

We are mamash the last generation of Galus, and the FIRST generation of Geula! There is no Galus Sin and there is no "forever galus"

The statements above are complete and utter kefira and violate a foundation principal of our faith that Moshich will come and we await him everday. He WILL COME!

4/09/2013 1:21 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I too don't believe that there will be a Galut Sin. Nebuchadnezzar's dream only predicts four exiles not five (gold= Bavel, silver= Paras/Madai, copper= Yawan (Greece), and iron= Rome. the iron mired with clay at the end of the four galuyot is Rome mixed fully with Yishmael in both feet, Rome and Constantinople. In Washington D.C., Rome, Marylahd on the Potomac, Obama is both Rome and Yishmael, Xtianity and Islam. And Istanbul and Constantinople have been mired with each other for over 550 years. Obama and Erdogan are the End, the bitter end to a long galut. May it be sweetened with the five stiff-backed final letters as they become bent.

4/09/2013 1:36 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mochin Rechavim is absolutely right and Anonym. just before him is absolutely not right. There cannot be a forever golus and we are in the era of the geulah. Being that the erev rav are in control and in cahoots with Edom & Yishmael, they are trying their darndest to withhold the geulah, but H' runs the world. What Anonymous wrote about the mitzrim that we could have had an influence on them is not correct either. Do believe the only reason the erev rav were allowed to attach themselves to us at yetziat Mitzrayim is for history to play itself out and bring us to the Geulah because the erev rav were never sincere and H' told Moshe that, but did allow him to accept them to join us. H' runs the world and has reasons for everything, even if we cannot understand. It was through the erev rav that we returned home after 2000 years of exile. We cannot understand H's ways, but there will never be a Golus Sin and we are on the verge of the Geulah Shleimah. There is a purpose for creation and that is for Moshiach to come and then the world will know that there is only Hashem. It is kefirah and does violate the foundation of the 13 principals of faith to deny the coming of Moshiach, and, hopefully, his coming will be sooner than we think.

4/09/2013 1:43 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I should quickly point out that the clay mired with the Iron (Edom/Rome) is Yishmael and NOT the Children of Keturah/ Haggar. The clay does not hint to other children of Keturah or Haggar. Yishmael is called Pereh Adam with the emphasis on Pereh (his wildness), but he is also Adam (a man made from adamah, the earth). The clay in the vision in Sefer Daniel refers to him.

4/09/2013 2:01 AM  
Blogger LondonMale said...

The Chinese Exile (Galut Sin) is according to Rabbi David Katz, the Exile that cannot exist. [My guess is we get a preview of what it could be but never will be, before Mashiach comes. Similar to going to the cinema and seeing a trailer for a new film before the main film starts, but that new film in the trailer never gets a full release.] More here http://soulmazal.blogspot.co.uk/2011/11/galus-china-trek-with-erev-rav-into.html

4/09/2013 4:58 AM  
Blogger Klishlishi said...

Read R.David Katz's idea about a "Chinese Exile"
http://soulmazal.blogspot.co.il/2011/12/galus-china-welcome.html

4/09/2013 5:38 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

There are many Israelis (olim) that are living on dollars translated into shekels. As it takes more dollars to budget a shekel lifestyle, they may fall below Lapid's 20,000 middle class? lifestyle, into the bucket of the majority of Israelis living in constant overdraft. Dov, I know you wrote about this before, but it is a constant concern of many. Sure hope Lapid and Bennett iron out the economy in the next two years. The economy is truly more important, more than many understood. The Israelis said so in this last election.

BTW Chief of General Staff of the Israel Defense Forces Benyamin Gantz, was the most impressive at the Holocaust gathering in Birkenau yesterday and was an inspiring speaker. He towered over everyone. He spoke both in Hebrew and English which was surprising. About his name, 'Binyamin' and Gantz in Ivrit could be gimmel netz = ?Anything here?

4/09/2013 9:14 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Here's a link to his dedication speech Gantz

4/09/2013 9:22 AM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Wow, amazing.
Got to see Glenn Beck's 3/28 show on "New Alliances". He proposes the future GLOBAL distribution of power might look like between the socialists, communists, muslims and how the global map might look like. He also mentions WWI and WWII, plus a prediction for WWIII. I love when his thoughts dovetail with some of our very own Jewish prophecies.

4/09/2013 3:34 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Yes, Beck's view on this is brilliant and "out of the box". But unexpected events that simply cannot be predicted will introduce the light of the Messianic Era into the world over the span of the next 2 years. According to Glenn's map only Israel and Canada will be islands of freedom in the world.

According to medrashim, a "Tzemach" (sampling or plant) from a Cave here in Eretz Yisrael will grow into a mighty tree. Xtians who think that this took place 2000 years ago will be caught off guard when it really happens, unlike the faux and false experience of 2000 years ago. I don't expect Xtians like Beck to see this coming because they believe that it has already happened. The question will be of course the same question that is asked of all righteous gentiles. Does your human decency transcend your Xtian eschatology? If it does, the transition to a World of Truth will be a smooth one for the individuals involved. For those Xtians who are unwilling to part with their eschatology, they will look at this Messianic process as coming from the anti-X. As for Beck himself, as a good judge of character, I think he will make the right choice, but others will not.

4/09/2013 4:49 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Plus there is one major thing missing in any analysis on future events. The timeline for all out nuclear war with the "allied nations", Persia and North Korea, is extremely short. Both partners in this axis of evil have what the other does not. Persia has advancing missile technology, and North Korea has the fissionable material to make nuclear bombs. They are both helping each other in their alliance of evil. Beck's analysis of wars between thugocracies, Nazis, Communists, and Islam would take place over a longer period of time, perhaps a decade. The North Korea/ Persia nuclear alliance will be ready for World War by some time in the Shmittah year 5775. What many so called intelligence experts likely don't understand is that North Korea is doing a lot of Persia's nuclear enrichment right now, and Persia is helping the North Koreans with their missile technology. Rav Nachmani predicted this.

4/09/2013 5:31 PM  
Anonymous Shiloh said...

Dov, is Beck on podcast?

I hope he's right about Canada, but I was reading an article that stated that the Parliment was going to vote in a law that was similar to what just happened in Cyprus. Basically placing a tax on peoples savings to save one of the 6 banks to be bailed out if needed. So much going on behind the scenes right now that the public just can't keep up with.

4/09/2013 6:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Xtian's will find out that jc IS the anti-christ since christ is Greek word for mashiach..

4/09/2013 6:23 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

Neshama, is the only way to listen to Beck's analysis, to subscribe to his website??

I clicked on your link and that's the only option i could see. Only subscriptions.

?

4/09/2013 6:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Important to remember that the time is coming for a miraculous test of faith, as we are told in the torah in Devarim 13 we will be sent a false prophet.
I believe it was from rabbi Tovia Singer the famous anti-J4j speaker along with another speaker who mentioned that a final har Carmiel priests of Baal vs Eliyahu hanavi type disputation event will happen and the Jews will loose.
Had Eliyahu hanavi lost his korban cookoff it would not be important to us, it is not how we determine what is true or false.
Remember what we learned in the Torah and say every day with Shema and hold true to the aitz hachaim even if what physical proof you see or feel leads you to follow after your heart and eyes which will lead you to stray. WHen the miraculous seems to go against use just look at your tzitzit and remember.
Maybe I need to upgrade from blank to techelit tzitzit for me and the boys to help when we really need it.

4/09/2013 6:55 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The Blaze TV formerly GBTV.com is by subscription for $9.95 per month. I think you need to have either and American credit card or an international Visa or MasterCard with a 16 digit card number. Isracard with only 8 digits cannot be used on most American sites.

4/09/2013 7:02 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The Blaze TV formerly GBTV.com is by subscription for $9.95 per month. I think you need to have either an American credit card or an international Visa or MasterCard with a 16 digit card number. Isracard with only 8 digits cannot be used on most American sites.

Also Yoshke is gone from the scene forever. dead and boiling in whatever down in the actual She'ol, not the capital of South Korea. I don't expect him to come back to be the anti-X. When one has Xtian friends, one does not bring this up immediately. Only upon understanding Jewish history in Europe in the context of what Yoshke created in his name (or others created in his name) can it be understood why he is down there for his punishment in Olam HaBa.

4/09/2013 7:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can view Beck's 10 minute summary for free on his site:

http://www.video.theblaze.com/media/video.jsp?content_id=25896555&topic_id=24584158

4/09/2013 7:40 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

thanks anonymous for the link to the 10 min. summary. it was very interesting. Thanks Neshama for the HTP in the first place.

I will reserve my comments til i ponder it. hhh

4/09/2013 8:03 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Sorry to get back so late ... I posted both segments on my blog ... here is a link to both video spots of Glenn Beck discussing 'Global State', the world's 'Allied Nations', WW III and the balance of ugly-countries ... HERE

4/10/2013 9:15 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

nuts and bolts analysis by Megyn Kelly and KT McFarland of Foxnews on the Korean crisis. The only thing that I would disagree about is that this set of escalations is unprecedented compared to what the North Koreans have done in previous years in the springtime. Otherwise it is good analysis.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/2291636956001/un-chief-north-korean-crisis-may-be-uncontrollable/?playlist_id=922779230001

or here:

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/america-live/index.html

depending on which link works for you

4/11/2013 7:15 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Great line by KT McFarland:

"If they did not stop that pip-squeak from North Korea, they aren't ever going to stop the mighty Persian Empire from getting nukes."

What is worse, something that KT did not mention, is that the pip-squeak is working arm in arm with the Persian Empire.

4/11/2013 7:25 PM  

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