My Dear Readers Letter
Dear Readers:
I realize that I have not published in the last six weeks. I am sorry to have disappointed you. I must admit that since the British left Batzrah, albeit leaving it in Persian hands, I have been reeling. I have thought for a long time that the prophesy regarding Batzrah, that the L-rd will have a sacrifice of Edom's kingdom there, dealt with them. I feel that I really missed the mark. Even though many things that are transpiring now regarding Gog W.'s stated goal to divide Yerushalayim and establish a P.A. State, I have felt like I did something really wrong. I do believe that the British will not be let off the hook for their closing the gates to Zion just in time for the Holocaust, but at least for now their comeuppance will not be in Batzrah (Basra in Arabic where tzaddees become letter S such as Masri instead of Mitzri).
As Moshe Yess has pointed out, I will no longer move the goal line. If Gog W. Bush does not prove to be the Gog of prophesy by the time he leaves office in January 2009, I will, bli neder, stop publishing altogether. Until then events should be moving fast now. As it is, the American President will be returning several times this year as he makes creating a P.A. State his legacy and his payback to the Saudi Royal family so that the democratically elected leaders of the Royal family will continue to produce enough oil to fill America's needs. I mention this in response to Gog W.'s claim that his reason for creating this state is to bring democracy to the Middle East. Perhaps it simply slipped Gog's mind that Hamas is the elected leadership of the Palestinians. In January of 2006, Hamas won in an election against Mahmoud Abbas to lead this ragtag collection of so called refugees and stateless Arabs. Therefore, Hamas is the "legitimately elected leadership" of this non-nation that became a nation in 1964, dedicating itself to liberating the occupied territories of Tel Aviv and Haifa before there was a Six Day War. By the way, this is another lie. Until the 90s Arabs in Judea and Samaria had Jordanian citizenship, and the most common last name in Gaza is still Masri which as mentioned above means Mitzri which means Egyptian. I guess I will need to publish to confront the cascade of lies, but as I mentioned above, if Gog W. does not prove to be Gog by the time he leaves office, I will, bli neder, stop publishing this blog.
I realize that I have not published in the last six weeks. I am sorry to have disappointed you. I must admit that since the British left Batzrah, albeit leaving it in Persian hands, I have been reeling. I have thought for a long time that the prophesy regarding Batzrah, that the L-rd will have a sacrifice of Edom's kingdom there, dealt with them. I feel that I really missed the mark. Even though many things that are transpiring now regarding Gog W.'s stated goal to divide Yerushalayim and establish a P.A. State, I have felt like I did something really wrong. I do believe that the British will not be let off the hook for their closing the gates to Zion just in time for the Holocaust, but at least for now their comeuppance will not be in Batzrah (Basra in Arabic where tzaddees become letter S such as Masri instead of Mitzri).
As Moshe Yess has pointed out, I will no longer move the goal line. If Gog W. Bush does not prove to be the Gog of prophesy by the time he leaves office in January 2009, I will, bli neder, stop publishing altogether. Until then events should be moving fast now. As it is, the American President will be returning several times this year as he makes creating a P.A. State his legacy and his payback to the Saudi Royal family so that the democratically elected leaders of the Royal family will continue to produce enough oil to fill America's needs. I mention this in response to Gog W.'s claim that his reason for creating this state is to bring democracy to the Middle East. Perhaps it simply slipped Gog's mind that Hamas is the elected leadership of the Palestinians. In January of 2006, Hamas won in an election against Mahmoud Abbas to lead this ragtag collection of so called refugees and stateless Arabs. Therefore, Hamas is the "legitimately elected leadership" of this non-nation that became a nation in 1964, dedicating itself to liberating the occupied territories of Tel Aviv and Haifa before there was a Six Day War. By the way, this is another lie. Until the 90s Arabs in Judea and Samaria had Jordanian citizenship, and the most common last name in Gaza is still Masri which as mentioned above means Mitzri which means Egyptian. I guess I will need to publish to confront the cascade of lies, but as I mentioned above, if Gog W. does not prove to be Gog by the time he leaves office, I will, bli neder, stop publishing this blog.
posted by Dov Bar-Leib at 1/13/2008 08:33:00 PM
24 Comments:
Dov,
Keep on posting, you are on the right track, we don't know exactly what will happen but its good to keep watching. Check out Bill Koenig's site watch.org he is a non jewish reporter who documents every time Bush makes a move against Israel, there is a disaster in America. When Bush whent to Jerusalem, there was a storm in a city called Jerusalem in America. Every time Bush makes a move there is a consequence.
BS"D
Dear Dov and all of Dov's readers,
The Bush Scroll (made public just this last week) and authored by none other than Rabbi Adin Steinzaltz and associates identifies Bush as Gog. You, Dov, were doing so years ago.
The absolute last thing I want to be associated with my name is that I had any sort of hand in your decision to terminate this blog. I am not asking for that and certainly no one else who has been strengthened by your Torah insights (as I have been) wants that either. There is no shame in you possibly having erred about the British in Basra. And to terminate this blog because of that would be beyond wrong and tragic. I cannot count how many errors I have made in my life.
It serves only the forces of darkness for you too even mention the idea to cease publishing this blog. Please, I beg you, do not do that. No one is angry with you nor asking for any stoppage of these posts from yourself. Certainly not me. And if it turns out that Bush is not Gog...then so what. No sin will have been committed to justify a stoppage of all Torah from yourself.
Beyond question Basra IS going to blow. Beyond question Moshiach is on his way. Beyond question thousands of readers are depending upon you in these end times. We demand continued posts from you regardless of what proves to be the case with Bush.
Moshe Yess
Is there time left in 2008 for a "peace treaty" followed by implementation that would involve removal of at least 65,000 Jews from non protected settlement blocs (like where Dov lives)? I have thought for many years that Gog and his horde might turn out to be American "peacekeepers" and an international team of helpers to implement a Land grab, but we are running out of time if this is all to happen before George Bush leaves office. Remember also that Gog has Persia (Iran) on side with his confederacy. Regards, Hal
Dear Dov,
I ask you to not be too hard on yourself, and these words are meant to provide encouragement. As for myself, I am a "nobody"...just a Jew who has written a few times, and mostly reads. Mostly I pray (as Reb Moshe bar Leib pointed out referring to himself) to just make sure I obey Mitvot in emunah and concern myself with walking straight, Baruch HaShem. Your knowledge and scholarship is far beyond what I will ever have. In addition, I am one of the discounted...ani yehudi italkee. There were not millions of us murdered during WWII because there were not millions of us..only because there were not millions of us. Most of our own akhim call us "the pope's Jews," or "not real Jews," or worse.
I have learned this, though: no matter where in hagolus HaShem has taken us, we...you and I...and all Jews...have a mission. Here it is, in three parts, as I, one of the unlearned, have found it:
1. To learn HaTorah
2. To live HaTorah
3. To lead others to/strenghten them in HaTorah
So many thirst for the destruction of the nations, ha goyim. Regarding your words of the British in Basra, judgment for such things is already upon them, Dov. Britain has double-digit unemployment, an immigration problem similar to the U.S., and they do not bestride the world as they did in their days of empire.
The judgment of G-D does not only occur as a singular, shattering event. Sometimes it occurs as a trickle of water at a time...until there is an ocean. This week's parshat is Beshalach...and then, as now, so many are looking for the Yam Suf to part...yehudim, gerim, and goyim alike.
The sea will part...now...when hearts can part with the opening of love for men for their fellow men. Or have we forgotten the Nevi'im? Yekezkel 18 reports that HaShem does not wish the evil to die, and that all come into repentance. All. Not just yehudim and klal yisrael. Not the gerim. Not even the goyim.
All.
Instead of focusing on what is happening, we must focus on what the Living G-D has enabled us to make happen, Baruch Hu HaKodesh Yisrael...with His Torah, His ways.
The Keitz HaYomim will happen...as is in Ha'azinu (specifically Devarim 32.36) when our might is gone. It is HaShem Who will know when that is.
My wife and I lost our home to Katrina. We will never buy another. We wait for the time that G-D will restore us to the herds, the flocks, the tents. We wait and pray others will turn toward the ways of the Living G-D.
Do not be hard on yourself. My love and prayers are with you. Let G-D worry about the judgment upon the nations. We have a job to do...HaTorah, and opening our homes and hearts to the moaning, the wretched. Leading by example, so that goyim can become gerim...turn toward the Living G-D, not farther away from Him. Someday, Dov, He will restore us to the open skies, to the sheep herds.
And my tent will always have a spot for you to warm yourself, to break bread with us, and to rest your head, Baruch HaShem. With love and prayer,Boker Tov. Shalom v'l'chayim.
Yeshayahu ben Avraham Galluzzo
I am waiting for Jan 09 for your final resignation, and finally we you can stop with your predictions. 99 percent which never come alive. You indeed have been pushing the goal line farther and farther, and i was waiting for a letter like that from you for a while now.
all the best
fm
Your statement "(Basra in Arabic where tzaddees become letter S such as Masri instead of Mitzri)." is completely incorrect.
The correct way to pronounce a "Tzaddee" is with a palatial S exactly as Arabs do.
This information can be corroberated by asking all Yemenite Jews and most Sepharadim.
Also the Acemy for the Hebrew language says the same thing.
I appreciate your integrity...
That Kansas Guy
There is no reason for you to stop publishing just because of an error in premise. Did Rabbi Akiva stop teaching Torah when he realized Bar Kochba was not the Mashiah?
Please consider keeping the blog.
I agree - keep posting! You never said, and we don't expect, you were a prophet. However, the commentary is enlightening and fascinating. No one knows EXACTLY what will happen, and if you're coming here for all the answers, that's just not realistic. I have learned a lot from the blog in any case. Who says Britain won't be forced to return to Basra? Or that they won't get what is coming to them in another way? I say - chill on timing and predictions, but certainly, we want your commentary!
Zeev says:
Don't be so hard on yourself Rabbi Dov:
You are on the right track. You don't need to be 100% right to be right.
And, were you wrong about Basra? Was Jonah wrong when he prophesied about Nivineh? Absolutely not; they repented and Hashem showed them mercy.
Also, can we be sure that the British will not return to Basra as a result of some unforseen event in the near future?
Perhaps the Americans will take the place of the British and the prophecy will be fulfilled with them instead. The Americans were originally settled by British nationals looking for freedom of worship and the two nations have been intertwined throughout history. Americans speak English, etc...
And even if you are wrong, mazal tov to the British. Do we as Jews gain by the death of British citizens? Would it not be better if they survived and repented when Mashiach came? Then we could be a light unto them. We cannot be a light unto nations if look down on the "Goyim" as 95% evil with a very very few righteous gentiles. Any human life is precious.
Don't stop writing. Right or wrong, or partially both, you are a well intentioned mensch and a respected Rabbi and if you do quit just because you made an error, you might just be the first Yid in history to do so.
Hang in there, keep your head up and keep on trucking.
Reb Dov,
You are not wrong. George is Gog. OK OK is every little detail happening the way you want it to? No, but all the general themes are occurring. We have to be careful about how we take out the specifics from the prophets. Its clear we are in a major global upheaval (The Stock Market beginning to crash, the dollar plummeting are just some of the problems--Nuclear Iran another). How Gog goes down and what it means to come against Israel with his armies can be expressed in the physical reality in many different ways. Gog I mean George coming here seemingly as the head of the world trying to push the splitting of Jerusalem and Eretz Yisrael with 2000 security forces with him can be seen as a fulfillment of the first part of Yechezkel 38 and now according to the Malbim Esau and Yishmael will fight each other.
Also Moshe Yess is right , Rav Steinzaltz inferred George is Gog in the scroll. I think you got good company if that is the case.
So don't listen to any discouragement, just be careful in balancing the known clal from the unknowable prat.
All the best,
Dovid
Yasher Koach Dov, please keep posting. Over 95% love and appreciate your post, don't be discouraged by the detractors. We are not always right on everything but I still do believe and agree that Bush is Gog. Even if by slim chance he is not, do not quit posting! Hashem changed his mind with destroying Ninevah right away and added years to Melech Hezekiah so he does change. If Hashem changes his mind on Gog W. we always have Obama gog or Hiliary gog to not look forward to. I still have faith in Harav Kaduri zt'l's words that the final 7 years began on Hoshana Rabba 5762 so we still have until Hoshana Rabba 5769 for all this to work out. I am looking for something real big to happen this Pesach (April 20,2008)! The restored silver trumpets of the Temple have just ben blowed announcing the beginning of WAR against Gog W. and all those comming against Eretz Yisroel. Look for events to start speeding rapidy to Redemption in our days very soon!
I, too, believe you're on the right track. Please take some time to see http://www.righteousisrael.typepad.com/ , my blog (inspired, in part, by you).
My particular focus is on the Alliance of Esau and Ishmael.
Just, please, be easy on those who look forward to redemption who live in America. Please pray for their protection during what looks to be a coming storm here if America continues to pursue its current course.
Look forward for the emergence of Moshiach ben Yosef soon, a political/military leader. HaShem should protect him that he should live and not die.
How can every one insist the American President is Gog when in Ezekiel 38+39 this leader is the leader of the Muslim countries. Does Meschek (Moscow),Tubol (tubolsk) sound like American names. No Russia is the Northern country that is the leader of the Muslims. Who makes treaties with all the Muslim countries for weapons and to be protected by them, RUSSIA thats who? Do these countries in Ezekiel 38:5-6sound like American names. Persia (Iran and Iraq), Libya, Ethiopia, Gomer (Germany),Togarmah (Turkey),and many people with them (Muslim nations)Sudan, and African Muslims. 16 times in Ezekiel 38+39 these Russia, Egyptian-Muslim armies march to Israel not America, ISRAEL AND JERUSALEM they march against. Either this War happens before the 7 year peace treaty of Daniel 9:27is signed, or when I believe it will happen is at the midpoint of the 7 year treaty signing just before Elijah and Moses get murdered by the EU Dictator.
If it would happen before the final treaty is signed this could account for the 3RD TEMPLE being rebuilt because 5/6th of the Arab armies would be destroyed and there would be no stopping ISRAEL from rebuilding the 3RD TEMPLE with most of their enemies destroyed. And this way the European Union could easily Guarentee Israels security for the 7 years like Daniel 9:27 says will happen.
Dov,
I beg of you to keep posting!
Your posts are one of the bright spots in a gloomy world. We may disagree on occasion and come to find that we are both wrong from time to time, but you come from a very sound point of view. Don't bow to the evil inclination, we must continue to live, and to learn, and to teach as long as HaShem allows us to do so. Silence is not the answer, it take's a wise man to admit that he's wrong occasionally, and to then learn from his mistakes. Is W. Gog? I have doubted it. Is he in the service of the evil inclination? Yes, unfortunately he has proven so. The identity of a person is not as important as his actions. Therefore you are correct to identify W. as a conduit of such evil.
The judgment of the British? There are soon to be no British, no Germans, no etc. as the multi generational judgments of HaShem are in operation against them in myriad ways.
Dov, we need you!
Don't you dare stop posting!
Hey, Moshiach is coming, smile buddy!
Dov, obviously you and your family are going thru a hard time now. Your thoughts are genuine. No one should fault you for them, they are legitimate. Really you have acquired many online friends. One cannot blog with so many readers and not leave his imprint on their psyches.
What is happening in Eretz HaKodesh, Yerushalayim, and in Yehuda and Shomron is undigestable to our kosher neshomos. However, if this is what Hashem wants to occur, and it is necessary to come about in order to bring Moshiach and only then prepare us for the Holy year of Shabbos, and then for the Majestic 8th.
There's so much more to the end of our Geula, and not knowing exactly is part of it.
I am still trying to get to Yerushalayim, and if I were there already I would NOT think for a minute of leaving.
Reb Dov,
Might I suggest the following:
You have a drash regarding the Cosmic Clock. That is your chiddush. Bringing chiddushim in to the world is one of the purposes of our souls descent to this world. Your desire to see it hold true led you to latch on to unconfirmed and wrong statements by others. As of yet, you still have not admitted here that the interpretation that you quoted regarding the year 66 of the Zohar is incorrect. The assumption that this is a 7 year of Gog and Magog per the GR"A has not been confirmed to come directly from either Rav Kaduri or kitvei HaGR"A. Your interpretation of the Cosmic Clock itself leads to a certain passiveness, and aside from Aliyah, not much action or change of mind was suggested to the readers. You did perhaps fulfill expecting the Geulah in attempting to interpret events as you did, but calculations without action are frowned upon. A passive take on Geulah is not a good idea at this time.
"Beyond question thousands of readers are depending upon you in these end times."
Last time I checked, we depend on nothing else than Hashem. Especially in the end times.
The blog is filled with some well-intentioned but wrong words, mixed with many words of truth. It is not easy to sift the ones from the others. And, should we not finish planting the tree we are planting, etc. even though Moshiach may already be in town?
Dear Dov,
I am not sure if I understand correctly what is the reason for your decision but I pray to Hashem to guide you and support you in what He wants you to be and do! You are a motivator to me and many others that come and visit your blog.
Thank you for everything that you do and may Hashem bless you and your family!!!!!!!
You realize that day to day patrol is Iraqi now, but the Brits are garrisoned on the edge of the city.
Rabbi Dov you're work is very good, keep up the good work.
There is also a very interesting site called www.hirhome.com
covering israel and examining the history of the republicans, bush, and their ties to Saudi and grandpa Bush's ties to the Nazis, as well as Fatah's ties to the Nazis.
Learn Torah, speak Torah. Not lies. The British were not punished in Bozrah. Truth is important, "sheker" (falsehood is evil). This is no light matter. Real intellectual klipa has long reaching effects on those who occupy in it. More than you are aware of. Busch is not who you think either. You can say the olive branch of the ark before before Rosh Hashanah as Rashi says is not a sign of peace on 9-11, maybe, But if you are not speaking from ruach ha Kodesh ......
Take care, keep away from lies, be close to Hashem.
Basra is heating up:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080329/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq;_ylt=AgRoSqmVgIFCmQTf9JRsVjis0NUE
I come here, two years after this letter was written. I come here, knowing you no longer post here. I come to learn and to read, to test the words against the scriptures, and see what there is to see.
I do not come here believing George Bush is Gog... for that is not true, as you know. I am not looking for Gog or Magog, both of which I believe will be countries, not individuals. I am actually watching for the 12th Imam (Islam), Mosiach (Judaism), Peter the Roman (Catholicism), and the AntiChrist (Christianity).
And for what it's worth, your writings, even two years old, are fascinating to me. They are pieces of a puzzle, vital to the picture, although not all-encompassing.
And so for even these, I thank you. May Hashem bless and keep you, regardless of where you are.
-- aNNa
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