Friday, May 03, 2013

Who Will Cry Out to HaKodesh Baruch Hu in Galut Yishmael

Pirkei D'Rebbi Eliezer asks why is Yishma'el in the future tense.  G-d will hear.  It does not refer to when Yishma'el cried out to G-d when he was dying of thirst in the desert (Gen. 21:17) because there G-d heard in the past tense.  (Yet it must be said that the word וישמע takes the future tense Yishma and the Vav turns it into the past tense.)  So we learn that G-d pays special attention to Yishma'el's prayers when he prays to Him.  Yet, at the end of days, it is Yisrael that will scream out from the pain of Yishma'el's wretched barbarity (now that Malkhut Edom is subservient to him).  I have no idea who will hear the pain in this story and scream out to G-d.  Some of you will, and some of you will not.  Who will cry for Evyatar Borovsky, zt"l.  My next story will be a happy story.  Right now, this is what I can write.

Who will cry out for him?  The barbarity of the father who praised his murderous son is beyond words, but I have heard it all before and before and before.  I know this animal by now.

Update: Speaking of barbarity, I ran across someone discussing the Barbary Pirates that two of America's founding fathers went to war to destroy and obliterate from the face of the earth.  Thomas Jefferson and James Madison had a bit more gumption that Bibi Netanyahu that they brought the US Marines to the Shore of Tripoli to obliterate evil.  Both Jefferson and Madison stand in sharp contrast to the present menuval sitting in the Oval Office.  But it is obvious that with Yishamel, there is nothing new under the sun.  I love the name Musselmen for Muslim.  It actually creates and imagery of primitive sea creatures more than applesauce or weight lifters at the beach.  I am sorry for insulting the primitive sea creatures.

I am quoting a commenter on Glenn Beck's The Blaze.  I am sure that both the commenter and the author of this article might enjoy the publicity.


Who said this?
The Ambassador answered us that it was founded on the Laws of their prophet, that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and that every musselman [muslim] who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.
This statement was a part of a March 28, 1786, letter from John Adams and Thomas Jefferson to John Jay, the United States Secretary of Foreign Affairs, Continental Congress, concerning their conversation with the Tripoli ambassador as to why his pirates/terrorists hijacked our merchant ships, stole the ships and cargo while holding the sailors for ransom.
? Here are the main points:
a. “it was founded on the Laws of their prophet”;
b. “that it was written in their Koran”;
c. “that all nations who should not have acknowledged their authority were sinners”;
d. “that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and”;
e. “to make slaves of all they could take as Prisoners, and”;
f. “that every musselman [muslim] who should be slain in battle was sure to go to Paradise.”
The litany of cowards at that time was pretty large.  Every single useless European nation simply paid the ransom to the Barbary Pirates.  The exception seems to have been Sweden?  Jefferson when he became President did not waste much time to destroy these thugs from over 200 years ago.  He made some errors in dealing with the thugs to get prisoners released at the end of the war.  So it required James Madison to fight a 2nd Barbary War to finish what Jefferson had started.  Nothing much has changed in the last 200 years except that America now has joined the ranks of the cowards.  I guess that Netanyahu has joined them too, and the barbarity has simply gotten worse.  And now Edom simply has surrendered.  Well it was bound to finally happen one day.  Edom's angel did eventually come down from that ladder that Ya'akov saw on Ulpana Hill in Beit El while he was asleep, and what is left is a brown stump in at the bottom of a swamp called Islam.  I realize that there are 1.5 billion people who are attached to this cult of death in one way or another.  In the end if you want to argue that Dhimmitude is preferable to dealing with these creatures, go ahead.  But you won't get a sympathetic audience here.  I am ready to destroy the heart and soul of their cruel religion that by and large has brought nothing but pain and suffering to humanity.  



34 Comments:

Blogger LondonMale said...

Their religion can be used another way, that of scientific inquiry and study.
They provide us and have provided us with many scientists too, not least the Rambam's contemporary Avenzoar.

It is sad, and prophesised, that the evil side of their religion has come to dominate their encounters with us.

5/03/2013 4:23 AM  
Blogger lifedashboard said...

BS"D

Islam for Yishmael, and X-anity for Esav have good and evil mingled, evil dominating over the years of exile of the Shechina.

The redemption of Yakov, following he work of the sifting of the 288 sparks of Tohu, brings rectification to Yishmael and Esav who also receive from the Ein Sof, through the intermediary of Yiroel.

5/03/2013 3:12 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I know to both of you above, but we still are in pain. Five children have lost their Jewish father, a wife has lost her husband, and the murderer's father is publicly, unashamedly proud of his son the Barbarian.

The Islam of the "Old Man of Europe" at least close to its Turkish capital itself has been replaced by Yishma'el the wild ass of a man. It is as if Yishmael improved as he aged in Turkey under Suleiman, and now is back to murder and plunder. In general if Jews kept their nose clean, and payed the Jiywa tax, and played by some stupid rules of 3rd class citizenship, most of the time, Jews found their Dhimmi place in the Moslem world. Things were far worse in Xtian Central and Eastern Europe where we were lucky to have a place just to exist. The barbarity that we see today in the Muslim World was always beneath the surface. It is the Barbarity of Muhammad himself in the Saudi Peninsula. The difference now is that this barbarity is taking over the world.

5/03/2013 4:51 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would the Almighty hear the pleas of the wicked, especially against His beloved children, Yisrael? If we are in this bad situation, it is because of our sins that we have not done as commanded and not evicted the inhabitants when we were blessed to come home. Can be quite sure, that H' despises murderers and those that hate and curse us. HE is just waiting for the time when HE will wage battle against all the enemies of Yisrael and woe unto them. Secondly, do not believe that their prayers are to the true One and Only G-D. Theirs is derived from pagan sources and it bothers me very much to read the interpretation that HE accepts their prayers. No. History is playing itself out and that awesome Day is soon coming when there will be payback to all who have shed the blood of His beloved children throughout the centuries -that is the one great sin for which they will not and cannot be forgiven.

5/03/2013 5:21 PM  
Blogger LondonMale said...

The murder is very upsetting, the perpetrator's family are disgusting.

Yes Rav Dov, I agree on this changed aspect of Muslims away from the stabler times of "Dark Age" Central Asia and Early Modern Europe/Asia, and I read speculation somewhere that perhaps Amalek had spiritually infiltrated Yishmael in these days?
Certainly the Turks were no friends of ours by the time of the first Aliyah, their brutality towards us in the old Yishuv is sometimes over looked.

Of course, we have the midrash about Yitzhak where Yishmael has a bow and arrow and attempts to kill him too. So the original "spirit" of Yishmael carries danger with it also, as well as an awareness of Hashem, though different from our awareness.

Please may Moschiach come ASAP and we can be rid of this danger!

Shabbat Shalom

5/03/2013 5:24 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Chazal hold that Elokim hears Yishma'el's prayers because Avraham davened that Yishma'el should live before Him. But may he be punished for his shear barbarity. Islam is a cruel religion. It holds that G-d does not take into account our extenuating circumstances, and that teshuvah does not change one's fate in this world. So while they call their system of Law Sharia, they call their religion, Din. Amazing, no rachmanut (mercy) within their laws, pure Din. It is that mindset that either leads to their barbarity when they are in Jihad or it is their instinctive barbarity that leads to a system of law that does not take into account one's extenuating circumstances. It really is the opposite side of the coin to Xtianity. Islam is pure Din while Xtianity is Rachamim without Din, at least in terms of one's position in the world to come if one believes in Yoshke. In all Xtian doctrines, belief in Yoshke, gives one Amazing Grace. So yes, the sheker of one is the Emes of the other and vice versa.

Yet, Xtianity, at least in America was tempered by a societal unity under G-d and not under Yoshke, which made America, until recently, the greatest gentile nation in history. Oh, have the mighty fallen!!

5/03/2013 5:47 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Shabbat Shalom

5/03/2013 5:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I learned the garments of the creator are His characteristics - Judgement and mercy. You're right Islam is the exact opposite of Christianity. When G-d is revealed His name will be One.

5/03/2013 11:07 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

There is much to say on this topic regarding Yishma'el's relationship with G-d. It should be noted that the name HaShem (YKWK) never appears in association with Yishma'el. Only the Name Elokim appears with Yishma'el in the Torah. This is NOT the case of Hagar, his mother, though, who entreated HaShem the first time Sarah afflicted her when Hagar had first become pregnant. Yet, with Yishma'el himself one only finds the Name Elokim (G-d's attribute of strict justice without tempering Mercy.) So the Name of G-d which Yishma'el knows is Allah. They know NOT the Name of HaShem. Allah is from the root Elokim. It also shows up in their understanding of G-d's relationship to the individual. They understand being Allah's servant (Abdullah for instance as a common name amongst Muslims). Yet, they cannot conceive G-d to be a Father. There are no names like Benaiyahu (Son of HaShem) in Islamic names. So Muslims only understand their obedience to Allah while Xtians are honed in to G-d as their Father, service out of love. I once had a friend who was a Muslim. He was very critical about the concept of G-d being a Father. He thought the only appropriate way to understand G-d was as a King. Yet, the Jewish way of course is to understand G-d as being Avinu Malkeinu (Our Father Our King), not the Xtian way of exclusively Our Father and not the Muslim way of exclusively Our King.

5/05/2013 1:07 AM  
Blogger LondonMale said...

In the book "Nation On Fire" by Shapiro, there is much discussion of the nature of Yishmael. The whole last third of the book is devoted to this.
Many Rabbonim wrote in there that when Ben-David rises, Yishmael falls, and vice-versa. But also that pages 306 - 309 by Rabbi Yeruchem Olshim mention that Yishmael has some merit to be in Eretz Yirsrael because of his Brit, but that his Brit is not as complete as ours and so has less merit.
Also it says elsewhere in the book that Yishmael's frequent prayer, and use of a name of G-D in colloquial speech, give him some merit too.

5/05/2013 1:08 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Yes, Yishma'el has 3 merits in Olam HaZeh. One is prayer, albeit only to G-d as a Strict Judge named Allah. The 2nd, his merit to be in Yerushalayim, is from his imperfect brit milah, Milah without periah. The word Periah which means to uncover has the same shoresh as the word "wild". It is meant to control our wilder side. Yishma'el by not performing this rite exposes himself to his wilder side and has even made his wilder side a part of his view of Paradise. (end of discussion on this matter). Yet, the merit of Milah give Yishma'el merit to control the Temple Mount until Mashiach comes. Moshe Dayan must have known this when he handed the keys back the the Wakf, the day after the Temple Mt. was captured in the 6 Day War. Dayan himself was circumcised on the 8th day in Kibbutz Deganya because of an unusual set of circumstances. (a well known story about Rav Kook and Rav Sonnenfeld traveling through the Galilee in in the early 1900s performing Brit Milah on Socialist settlers from the 2nd Aliyah who wanted nothing to do with Brit Milah). What Dayan did not know was it was in the merit of his circumcision with peri'ah that he merited to capture Yerushalayim from the Bnei Yishma'el in 5727 (1967), but since Mashiach had not yet come, he relinquished the keys to the Temple Mt. the next day. And there is a third merit which I will have to check into. Sorry I forgot it. But it should be noted that Avraham when he says to the Name HaElokim, "May Yishma'el live before You.", the word for "live" is in the singular. It only refers to his proliferation in Olam HaZeh. For Yishma'el as a nation to have an Olam HaBa, certain individuals will have to do teshuvah. The mass murderers of course will soon perish. Yet, with Yishma'el himself the Torah does say that when he dies, "he is gathered unto his people". This would indicate that Yishmael himself did do a full teshuvah and has Olam HaBa. On the other hand, We see no such evidence that Edom ever did teshuvah.

5/05/2013 2:45 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

This really cuts to the chase about Yishma'el's basic issues. It is brought down in kabbalah, that at heart it is Esav who was the murderer, and the Bnei Yishma'el who raped and pillaged. Esav errs on the side of Din while Yishma'el erred on the side of Chessed (lovingkindness). He is obsessed with relations with women, so much so that it is an integral part of what the Bnei Yishma'el view as their eternal reward.

5/05/2013 3:12 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

In this last generation now that we are at the end, both Islamic and Xtian civilization are reaching their endpoint because of outright disintegration. Islam goes to great lengths to protect itself internally from its "spiritual" appetite for women by covering them from head to toe. Yet, it seems to be disintegrating on the side of free hate and wanton murder. Just look what they are doing to each other in Syria.

Yet, the West (Edom) seems to be disintegrating on the side of free love when in previous generations, The West (Edom) had a pre-disposition toward murder. So here at the End of Days, the sins of Edom and Yishmael have reversed from what they were throughout history. Edom the murderer is destroying itself because of free love, and Yishma'el the sex fiend is destroying himself because of free hate. This is actually a good sign that both sides are literally falling apart from the inside out. The sad part is Jews in the West are falling along with it on the side of unfettered free love. And here is Israel, we regularly are victims to Yishma'el's murderous rage. The faster that both of them disintegrate at the same time in the area where they were previously strong, the better it will be. May it happen more quickly. Amein.

5/05/2013 3:46 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

It is also worth noting that the Torah emphasizes that the physical world was created with the attribute of strict justice even if the foundation is Chessed. So in the 1st chapter of Bereishit we only see the Name Elokim only for G-d.

Yet, with the creation of the Divine soul, the neshamah, we see the Name HaShem Elokim in chapter 2. This would mean that our souls are judged with G-d's temperament of Mercy by infusing Justice with Mercy in which G-d does take into account our extenuating circumstances when He judges our souls.

It is not always clear in Olam HaZeh though. It appears that G-d regularly acts as Elokim at times of judgement at which time extenuating circumstances are not considered. In normal times, not at times of judgement, the natural world has a veil of pure chessed. The chessed of normal times is mekabel tumah (receives impurity) because Elokim allows it to exist by hiding behind a veil of nature Yet, the Din of judgement is not mekabel tumah, for the suffering in this world burns the tumah away. So according to mishnayot in Keilim, day One amongst the 6 days of Creation is mekabel tumah because in it the veil of chessed appeared, but day Two is not mekabel tumah because it is infused with pure Din.

Yet, we live in two worlds, Olam HaZeh and Olam HaBa. the word Chaim refers to both worlds since life is in the plural with reference to the neshamah when the neshamah is first mentioned in the Torah. Also the time between Rosh HaShana and Yom Kippur provides for the ten days in which all these extenuating circumstances are considered even for what happens in this world. The Name HaShem Elokim, like Avinu Malkeinu, is apparently unique to Judaism. The nations of the world have a difficult time comprehending this basic concept. For different reasons both Xtianity and Islam don't understand it. The B'nai Yishmael simply don't understand it. They do not rise above the 30th level of purity where Chessed and Din begin to fuse. Edom though refuses to accept it even though deep down he does know it!! Edom simply rejects it in order to not be obligated to suffer for his sins in the world to come. Alas, The one advantage the Xtians have though is that they have the Hebrew Scriptures within their own Scriptures. So over the Centuries, after the invention of the printing press, they could read verses in the Bible which contained the Name HaShem Elokim. By the time of the founding of the United States, the idea of extenuating circumstances became infused in the British colonies because they were well versed in the Bible. So they created a "new" system in the United States understanding the fusion of strict justice and mercy of the Creator. As the late Maggie Thatcher said. Europe is a product of history, (that is whatever decency exists in Europe exists because the history of massive bloodshed and barbarity needed a modifying European response). But America was a product of philosophy. The founding fathers of the US actually understood the true nature of Man in relationship to G-d. So they formed a government which reflected this relationship.

5/05/2013 4:11 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The failure of America is, therefore, not at its root. Its failure is its Tachlit (goal). What is the American Dream? It is not Utopia or World Peace. Its goal is prosperity, and the leisure that comes with it. So in the end even the Founding Fathers of the US could only conceive of building Olam HaZeh to create a world up to the 33rd level of purity. As it has fallen from its mighty perch upon leading the world through the 33rd Century after Matan Torah, it could not make the switch from serving G-d to make money to making money to serve G-d. That the purpose of Creation and serving G-d is not to simply create more prosperity, but to make the switch that the entire purpose for that prosperity is to serve One's Creator. On that point, America ultimately fails.

When Gog Bush Sr. became POTUS in 1988, it was the year 5749 of the holy calendar, 3301 years after Matan Torah. Suddenly it was time to count the Omer on the 33rd Century after G-d gave Yisrael the Torah. His response was to declare a New World Order where after receiving Mon in 3 Centuries, the US had a chazakah on the Mon (prosperity), that the money would fall from Heaven forever. Service to G-d was replaced with placing a spiritual roof (a gag thus the name Gog or George) over the Western world assuming that Divine Providence was set for the rest of time and that prosperity would consequentially flow from above forever. Like a chazakah, it was supposedly owned forever. This was a fatal flaw built into America's end from its principle founder another Gog name Washington (also a 33rd degree free-Mason). What Esav never has understood, even in America, is that the world continues past the 33rd level all the way to 49. It is at the 33rd level where it switches. Before level 33, the purpose of serving G-d is prosperity. Above the 33rd level the purpose of prosperity is to serve G-d lishma (for its own sake). It is worth noting that the reward in Olam HaBa is for actions that are done lishma. If one behaves well to merit a portion in Olam HaZeh (because one believes that such and such died for one's sins 2000 years ago), then that is where one will usually receive his reward. If one prevents rising to higher levels above 33 by making prosperity the goal of Creation, then one makes a place for Amalek in this world. And this is what has happened. The seven years of Gog (Eliphaz) ben Gog (Esav) are followed by 7 years of the one who toils like a monkey (Amalek or Amal Qof). This is a reference to the monkey god from Jakarta that Obama carries around in his pocket. more later.

5/05/2013 4:36 AM  
Blogger LondonMale said...

Thank you Dov.
I think Yishmael's third merit is connected to their frequent saying of "Inshallah", perhaps their reward is oil?

5/05/2013 7:11 AM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

In reality, Yishmael only arrives through the 29th level of purity as far as his teshuvah will take him. We see this that another 50 day period of repentance takes place between the 1st of Elul and Hoshana Rabba. There are 29 days in Elul and another 21 days in Tishrei until Hoshana Rabba. Teshuvah b'Yirah (out of reverence or fear) is most common in Elul. It is the only teshuvah that Yishma'el knows of since he only relates to G-d as a servant serves a King. So Yishmael waxed in power until the end of 29 centuries after Matan Torah, taking us until the year 1688 according to the Xtian calendar. According to the Jewish calendar, that final year was 5448. Exactly 5 years earlier, the Muslim Empire in Turkey had reached the Gates of Vienna in 1683. It was its furthest reach into the heart of Europe. The Ottomans were on the verge of sacking the city, but Divine Providence ruled that Yishma'el would lose that war. And upon retreating from the Gates to Vienna, Islam has barely won a victory since that historic battle. It has been in retreat ever since, and is today taking over its enemy from within. How do we know that Yishma'el only rises through the 29th level? On day 30 of the Days of Teshuvah, it is Rosh HaShana. Yitzchak went with his father, Avraham, to experience the Akeidah while Yishmael stayed back in camp at the base of Mt. Moriah with the jackasses. Yishma'el along with Eliezer of Damascus had escorted his half-brother and father on the trip until the 3rd day of the trip, which was Rosh HaShana. And specifically on that 30th day, Yisrael starts saying Avinu Malkeinu, a relationship with G-d that Yishma'el does not have.

5/05/2013 11:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You give too much credit where it is not due. First of all, let's be clear the Yishmaelim do not exist today (for about a 1000 years). Yishmael is the spiritual representative of the moselm world and Eisav is the spiritual representative of the xtian world. Today's Arabs (their name itself gives it away) are a mixture of practically every people and race there is. Maybe some beduoins or Saudis, Kuwaitis might have some remnant of Yishmael. Secondly, it was only Yishmael himself who did teshuva.
Giving all this credit to people who murder for pleasure is blasphemy. Esav/Edom,Christians, Yishmael/Muslims hate Yaakov! As Yehudim, that's what we have to know and consider. Everything is leading to the coming of Moshiach and all part of HIS Master Plan where the world will know there is Only H'. In the meantime, we all know that the Erev Rav are ruling now as foretold by our great, holy and wise sages & they are now speeding things up against the Jews of Israel and worldwide. Also, everything that happens is for the bnei Yisrael's sake. Whether they are the reps of Yishmael or Eisav & Erev Rav, making tzarot- it is all for our sakes to do teshuva! If the Jewish people would only return to at least the basics of being G-D fearing yehudim, nothing or no one could hurt us and in a blink of an eye, Moshiach would be here.

5/05/2013 4:43 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

Read an interesting article on our political history and am wondering how this might fit into our scenario? Care to comment?

5/05/2013 5:57 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Ynet is wrong. I don't expect them to understand. The only party that believed in a Peace Process in the past election was Tenua, Tzippy Livni's party + a much more hard line Sha'ul Mofaz in Kadima. That is 8 total seats, and since the election, Tenua's support has been halved from 6 to 3. The Peace Process is dead...even if the world does come to divide Yerushalayim. They, of course, will come to do just that when it becomes abundantly clear that 80 to 90% of Jews in Israel think it is a joke. Then the world will get angry under the careful guidance of Saudi Arabia...to be sure. Yes, Aryeh Deri personally is a pacifist even if most Shas voters are not, and UTJ has a greater bond with Jews in Brooklyn than with Jews in Chevron. The Erev Ze'ir still is strong, but the power of the Erev Rav is waning.

And now exactly 40 weeks to the day after Tisha B'Av 5772 we will finally have a war with Syria, Hezbollah and who knows with whom else. 39 to 40 weeks is the average term for any pregnancy. We shall see where we go from here. Perhaps it is a good siman that the birthpangs begin with 40 weeks. The ones in March were all about Sinat Chinam. And that continues. Ya'ir Lapid is being compared to a Nazi by trying to integrate Chareidim into the workforce. The entire draft plan is on hold until 2017, 4 years from now. Moshe Ya'alon has announced that he will never agree to a quota on Matmdidim who learn Torah fulltime. There really is no reason for that type of hatred now. And by the way, Ya'ir Lapid himself just announced that there will likely not be a negotiated peace with Arabs for 100 years. Now if we could make peace with each other.

5/05/2013 6:34 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

By the way, Shelly Yechi. campaigned on Communism NOT on the Peace Process. She basically avoided talking about the Peace Process. Instead she talked about social justice, and workers of the world unite! I guess we can add Meretz to the camp of those who are still wild-eyed about the peace process.

5/05/2013 6:37 PM  
Blogger Moriah said...

Could you please explain, bring some light onto the subject of Isaiah chapter 19? More specifically verses 18 through 25? I've never heard anyone even discuss this.

http://www.mechon-mamre.org/p/pt/pt1019.htm

5/05/2013 7:09 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Actually Yishaiyahu 19:23 - 25 is a well known Messianic prophesy concerning a road that will link between the Nile Delta and Nineveh in what is now Iraq through Yerushalayim in the Messianic Era. I will have to look into the other verses. What must be understood is that the Mitzri'im of ancient times are not necessarily the Mitzri'im of today. Mitzraim changed drastically first under the Greeks and then of course after the Arab invasion in the 7th Century. I will look more deeply into this.

I had heard years ago that the City of Tzoan was ancient Tanis, but I will check with another source that I have to make sure. The Tzo'anim today are usually identified with Gypsies who are "genetically" the closest thing to the true Mitzri'im of ancient times. The gene pool of Gypsies was not spoiled by invading Greeks, Romans, and Arabs.

5/05/2013 8:48 PM  
Blogger Neshama said...

What a time to go to China (PM might not get any sleep). "Fajr-5:Iran has supplied the Palestinians with Iranian missiles of the Fajr-5 variety ... Missiles in the north and possible Fajr-5 in Gaza ... Iron Domes in Sfas and Haifa... maybe put a couple more by Tel Aviv and Jerusalem ... wow we might see some real fireworks!

PS about the YNet article, I wasn't thinking about any 'peace process' but instead about the three turning points. True, we don't need socialism anymore. We need more capitalism, like Glenn says, to make money to do more Chessed (Materialism/Collectivism vs. Making Money).

5/05/2013 8:51 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

The Free Market is the best way to create wealth and to allow the wealthy to give more tzedakah. The reference frame must change from government handouts to Jews doing mitzvot. Yet, it would be best for Jews here to be the ones giving tzadakah to other Jews. G-d willing that is where we are headed. Most industries work well with a totally free market as long as competition is guaranteed by law. The main Jewish difference between what America was and what we need to be, is that the purpose of prospering is to serve G-d...not the other way around. A society cannot lead the world into a Utopian Messianic situation if the purpose of serving G-d is to prosper without an equal importance to the converse. In America if someone does the right thing even if it conflicts with prosperity, he is called an altruist. In the Messianic Era it will be the New Normal.

America was not conceived to lead Mankind into an Era of altruistic good even if there are more than a few altruistic Americans. The phshat is that America was founded to serve G-d in order to prosper only. That is the essence of the Golden Calf and why America was founded on the 17th of Tamuz in 1776. Only Israel can lead Mankind with a covenant of altruism with the Creator. If one looks at the 7 shepherds, only the last two, Yosef and David, are Kings. Why is this? because Edom cannot provide real kings above Hod she'B'hod, the 33rd level. Yosef is at Yesod sheb'yesod and David is at malkhut she b'malkhut. I believe tonight is the sefirah of yesod she'b'yesod (41st day of the counting of the Omer)....So many people are headed for kever Yosef in Shkhem this evening.

5/05/2013 9:20 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

I need a source for the following, but I thought that I would convey it. I had heard it brought down that many people who go through the mourning process during sefirat HaOmer continue not to play music on the evening of Lag B'Omer until the first Eshmorah of the night (first third of the night) has passed because Rabbi Akiva's students continued to die until the first Eshmorah of the night. This would be 1/6th of the 24 hour day on Lag B'Omer. Can someone help me with a source? Thank you.

5/05/2013 9:33 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dov bar Leib, today sunday 05-may-13 it's 39 , not 40 weeks since tisha b'av 5772 !! Count again. I just did that. So week 40 will start in the same week as shavuot, that's so gr8. :) Also, did you notice ?, Har sinai according to the torah is in the land of Arabia (Torah) and now it's saudi ARABIA as you have written already couple of times who is controlling edom and the M-E except Israel of course (Jewish destiny is guided directly by Go-d without any intermediary ministring angel).

5/05/2013 10:17 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

No, no, I have been keeping very accurate track of the 40 weeks. Do the calculation again. It ended on the 25th of Iyar. I am 100% positive about that. Now as someone pointed out earlier, a pregnancy that is not quite on time can last 42 weeks. After 42 weeks, births are induced. i will get back with a very exact calculation to give you.

5/05/2013 10:24 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

29.5 days per month x 9 months = 265.5 days. 266 days divided by 7 days per week = 38 weeks exactly. Now Kislev only had 29 days. So, from the 9th of Av until the 10th of Iyar was exactly 38 weeks. Adding two full weeks to get to 40 weeks took us until nightfall on the 25th of Iyar or end of the day on the 24th of Iyar....take your pick. Today was the 25th of Iyar, the first day of week 41 since Tisha B'Av 5772 which fell on Shabbat. That is it.

5/05/2013 10:31 PM  
Anonymous mkf said...

With everything that is going on it's hard to keep track of it all,but i wanted to make a comment about Yishmael/Esav. I know this may sound odd, but I feel that both Islam & Xtianity are Esav. Think about it. They are both "replacement ideologies, theologies" to Judaism and Am Yisrael. If you look through history when one was up the other was down. The very fact that one is Din and the other rachmanut shows that they are two peas in the same pod. Yishmael never coveted the birthright, nor argued over it. Both Islam and Xtianity do as Esav did.
True Yishmael may be Arab but separated from Islam. Islam learned much of it's origins from the Eastern Orth Church, virulently anti-semitic. The original Roman Empire extended to Saudi Arabia. It's Esav we fight in the final days. Yishmael will be reconciled with us but this doesn't mean Islam.
imho (in my humble opinion)

5/05/2013 11:00 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Daisy Stern of Israel Truth Times blog agrees with you, MKF. She sees the roots of Islam in the Roman Catholic Church, though, not the Eastern Orthodox Church. Actually that would likely be the case since the schism in the Catholic church was in the 11th or 12th Century, and Islam started in the 7th Century when the main church in Byzantium was still the Roman Catholic Church.

Here is her blog:

http://www.israeltruthtimes.blogspot.co.il/

Yes, it is true that Yishmael does not appear as a competing world view in the Torah, but he is still blessed by G-d to be a great nation with 12 princes. Both Yisrael and Edom had 13 tribes and alufim respectively. (Be careful not to count Aluf Korach twice. His name is mentioned twice because of an adulterous affair hinted at in the verses in Genesis parshat VaYishlach.) This is because Yisrael can have a 13 month year 7 times out of every 19 years. Esav is not even tied to the lunar cycles at all, but even he viewed 13 as a number of perfection. Only Yishmael has the peculiar distinction of having a 12 month lunar year which has no correspondence whatsoever with the seasons. Every year the Islamic calendar loses 11 day to the Solar calendar.

5/05/2013 11:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dov, I'm the same Anon as 5/05/2013 10:17 PM. i have read your reply and have counted the weeks again TWICE after I read it. From July 29, 2012 [9 av 5772] till 05 may 2013 = 40 weeks. Take a calendar and count.

5/06/2013 3:06 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Actually Tisha B'Av 5772 was on Shabbat (July 28th, 2012). 40 weeks later takes us through the 24 of Iyar 5773 (May 4th, 2013). I fail to understand what you don't understand. Yes, as you said, 40 weeks have been completed. The July 29th date that you quote was the actual fast day since Tisha B'Av was on Shabbat. Therefore the fast was pushed off until Sunday, the very next day. So you are actually counting from the tenth of Av if you are counting from the fast day.

5/06/2013 3:20 PM  
Blogger Dov Bar-Leib said...

Maybe you are confused, thinking that the 5th of May, yesterday, was the 5th of Iyar. No No. The 5th of May this year, yesterday, was the 25th of Iyar.

5/06/2013 3:23 PM  

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